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Cadillac is going to have a quiet 2017, but 2018 looks to be a blockbuster year as the first of their needed crossovers will launch - the compact XT3. Thanks to a spy photographer, we have gotten our first look at it.

General Motors' camouflage department did a really good job of covering up the XT3, so we can't really tell much about the design except that it looks like an even smaller XT5. One detail they weren't able to cover up is the intercooler, leading us to believe that the XT3 will come with turbocharged power - most likely the 2.0L turbo. A nine-speed automatic and the choice of front or all-wheel drive is likely. Platform-wise, expect the XT3 to use the underpinnings of the Chevrolet Equinox and GMC Terrain.

Source: Car and Driver

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surreal1272

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2 hours ago, dfelt said:

WOW, I know I have seen some shaby dashes from everyone but this one does make me shake my head. :nono::facepalm:

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Which model of MB is this dash out of?

The new E Class. 

surreal1272

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1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

Photos of the test model, not even the production E-class.  The E-class is the standard for interior and just about everything else in mid-size luxury sedans.  I don't like the piano black on the E-class, I wish there was a wood trim substitute for that, not sure if there is. 

But then there is this with a lot of piano black:

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And? The production model is no better unless you prefer the 80s Buick dash look. 

 

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Robert Hall

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20 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

And? The production model is no better unless you prefer the 80s Buick dash look. 

 

 

That's a reach...80s Buicks were all about rectangles...I don't see anything Buick about modern Benz dashes..

surreal1272

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15 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

That's a reach...80s Buicks were all about rectangles...I don't see anything Buick about modern Benz dashes..

Just the shape of the top of the dash reminds me of the shapes Buick used in the late 80s in to the early 90s. That just looks hideous to me. 

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Robert Hall

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I like those '77-90 Buick dashes....   I like the horizontal vintage GM dashes. 

ccap41

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On ‎2‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 11:08 PM, smk4565 said:

XT5 sells because it is the only crossover in the show room.  It is also mid-size vehicle for the price of a small european crossover, I think that helps it with female buyers with a family that want space.  XT5 basically sells the same way the CTS sold in 2008-2013 era, it was a mid-size car for the price of a 3-series, that has appeal.  It is the same formula Lexus used on the ES and the RX.  It is a formula that works, but then you get into a situation that Lincoln and Lexus are in, where you have a mid-size SUV at $40k, and need to get a small and compact SUV below that.

There's room under 40k to start. Especially when we're talking smaller than XT5/MKX. Lincoln's MKC starts at 32k and MKX at 38k. Cadillac can do that exact same thing with the XT5/3 as the XT5 starts at 39k. Which happens to be almost EXACTLY what BMW and Mercedes do as the X1/3 start at 33k and 39k and the GLA and GLC start at 33k and 39k(give or take a couple hundred bucks).

ccap41

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On ‎2‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 8:43 AM, smk4565 said:

GLC43 coupe for that money!

One of the top 5 ugliest vehicles produced today. The next 4 are the other "coupe" CUVs that Benz and BMW make.

smk4565

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1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

There's room under 40k to start. Especially when we're talking smaller than XT5/MKX. Lincoln's MKC starts at 32k and MKX at 38k. Cadillac can do that exact same thing with the XT5/3 as the XT5 starts at 39k. Which happens to be almost EXACTLY what BMW and Mercedes do as the X1/3 start at 33k and 39k and the GLA and GLC start at 33k and 39k(give or take a couple hundred bucks).

Right except an XT3 is sized like an X3 or GLC, so it should be $39k and an XT5 like $52k if they were lining up with the Germans.  They are lining themselves up with Lincoln.  

Cmicasa the Great

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1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

Right except an XT3 is sized like an X3 or GLC, so it should be $39k and an XT5 like $52k if they were lining up with the Germans.  They are lining themselves up with Lincoln.  

NO.. they are not gouging people for the sake of gouging them. U seem to revel in the idea of the Germans raping U raw... I kind of like the idea, for instance, that my Vseries starts off $10K less than the M5 and absolutely looks better and classier has a nicer interior to boot.. has been the epitome of reliability.. and when its called upon to fuck that Kraut Bitch up.. it delivers in spades.

 

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ccap41

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Not quite. Also, there's noting wrong with lining up with Lincoln when it comes to SUVs. SUVs aren't sporty or athletic. They're driven mostly by soccer moms who legitimately have no clue which wheels are powered. They all offer a soft cushy ride.

Length/Width/Height in inches

Lincoln MKC: 179.2 / 73.4 / 65.2

GLC: 183.3 / 74.4 / 64.5

XT5: 189.5 / 75 / 66

MKX: 190 / 76.1 / 66.2

GLE: 192.9 / 78.9 / 68.1

 

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