August 14, 200619 yr Chevrolet Camaro Concept: Design Note: Recently, I brought you details about the design of the new Dodge Challenger, the concept that served as a precursor to Dodge’s re-entry into the revitalized Pony Car segment. In that article, you got to see a good chunk of images you had to pay-to-see over at Car Design News (which, to me, isn’t fair at all) and read about styling elements, etc. Now it’s time we look at an equally legendary machine: the Camaro These two sketches show a car that in no way is a Camaro and tends to be very futuristic. Cues from GM’s Autonomy concept and the Saturn Curve concept seem to litter these sketches. This early sketch shows cues from the ‘69 model. It probably came from Design North Studio since it shows many traits in common with an early, full-size clay model. This early rear-view sketch compliments the above sketch. Another design from Design North Studio. (The technique used to sketch that rendering seems very cartoonish...) This early proposal that probably came from Design North Studio shows a strong influence from the 1969 Camaro, especially in the front cues. Some cues would stick around for the final concept, like the vent gills on the rear-quarter panels for example. This early sketch is probably better suited for a GTO proposal with styling based around the mid and early sixties models, and seems to have some cues in common with the 1999 concept car of the same name. The roofline would eventually be refined and make its way to a design proposal. Cues from the front of this design, although maybe too morbidly rabid and agressive, by designer Steve S. Kim would find their way to design proposals and the eventual finished product. During early stages of this project, the second generation models were very influential. Designers liked this generation of Camaro because of the low profile and the fastback greenhouse. Designs of the above concept went as far clay models before GM decided to give a thumbs down. Rick Wagoner said in an interview that he determined that there was too much of a Mustang influence, and that is true. Look at the above photo and you can see the thick, straight-edged beltline has a Mustang feel. It does, however, look good and provides a possible decent basis for the next generation of Camaro after the much aspirated ‘09 CY model. (Also, what in the hell is that blue sedan in the background? Looks like a Chevy. Malibu proposal maybe? Impala? It has my attention.) More in a moment.
August 14, 200619 yr If that one that looks too much like a Mustang came to life, I don't think many people would like it. It looks all chunky and heavy.
August 14, 200619 yr Chevrolet Camaro Concept: Design (Cont.) The rear design of the proposal from Design North Studio. The design from Design North Studio goes one step further. This design proposal from the UK features a hodge-podge of classic cues with a modern take. Notice the wrap-around windshield and lack of A-pillars. One of the first concepts from GM's California studio. In the background, targets are noticed. You can also see the '70s-inspired design below the photos of the Mustang, etc. This early concept from GM's California studio predates the final concept car. Another concept from GM's California studio again predates the final product. It maybe even goes one step further and shows what a possible production car may apper to be like. Who knows? This alternative concept for the rear styling of the Camaro concept has soft edges, which is pretty different from the sharp-edged design from the final product. The rear-styling that would eventually make it's way onto the finished car. Again, this seems to go a little past concept and to production. Why would a concept car with no worries about street-legality be concerned with a bumper indent? More in a moment. Please refrain from posting until all images are up.
August 14, 200619 yr Chevrolet Camaro Concept: Design (Cont.) A proposal that moves a little closer to the final car. Something about this roofline suggests the 1999 Pontiac GTO concept car. Different interior sketches. Some elements of this design would make their way to the final product. Expensive Diesel watches inspired the instrument cluster design, etc. Final interior rendering by Micah Jones. The finished product. Enjoy!
August 14, 200619 yr *drools heavily* I still want one......build it NOW, not tomorrow, not soon, but now, put it on the market yesterday and watch them fly.
August 16, 200619 yr Great pictures! There are some design cues from these sketches I actually like better than the final product. But, I do really like the Camaro Concept and can't wait to buy one!
August 17, 200619 yr That was cool to see the progress of the concept sketches and ideas to the finished prototype. I know that Zeta is a new platform that has to undergo tons of Federalization and what not - but how can it take so long to get this car to market with the resourses at their disposal. Am I hearing right that the Dodge boys will have the Challenger almost a full YEAR before the Camaro debuts? Is this just plain platform engineering where they slap a car on an already tested platform - a la the Ford Thunderbird? Will this help or hinder the final Challenger, and in the long term make the Camaro a better car due to the extensive engineering for it's purpose built chassis? I am interested in hearing your take on this.
August 17, 200619 yr Yeah the Challenger is a lot of the current Charger platform, that helps hurry things, where the Camaro is more original. My favorite is the early clay,sketch with the number 4 in the lower right corner. A little too retro perhaps, but still my fav. I wish they would change the taillights tho, the ones onthe concept are waaay too AMC Javelin. . .
August 17, 200619 yr YellowJacket984-thank you so much for those Camaro concept sketches and models-I love seeing those processes, it makes you wonder what those different designs would be like productionized, or what it may look like under a different badge or such-either way great stuff!
August 17, 200619 yr This design proposal from the UK features a hodge-podge of classic cues with a modern take. Notice the wrap-around windshield and lack of A-pillars. Hmmm...
August 17, 200619 yr thanks for the pics! not only these designers like the first gen camaro they don't have much ideas to design something a bit different. but i like it and want one very soon.
August 18, 200619 yr No problem, guys. It was fun putting this together. (And it's cool to be featured on the main page, too, yeah. ) A "versus" question concerning the platform of the Camaro and Challenger was asked here and I feel inclined to answer about it. To start things off, I am unsure of what the Challenger will be based on -- the old LX (2005) or the new LY (2009). Some sources indicate it will be on the new LY platform which will also serve as a basis for the next Charger, 300, and Magnum. I've also read it could be based on the current LX. In either case, I would bet on a sound structure with great driving dynamics. I've test driven a Charger recently, and that car had really great handling. Nothing but point-and-go on the dot responses. I would bet on seeing more of the same, if not better results, from Zeta. Zeta is a Global-issue platform and it has to be able to talor to the different driving dynamics of different markets. I'm sure it will be just as good or better than LX or LY. GM is probably taking more time with this to do away with concerns with Federalization (as mentioned) and to be competitive with driving dynamics of the DCX rear-drive platform, among other competitors. We drive differently from the People Down Under and GM is probably making sure that the platform is perfectly talored to our tastes. Hope that made sense.
August 18, 200619 yr Chevrolet Camaro Concept: Design (Cont.) The rear design of the proposal from Design North Studio. The design from Design North Studio goes one step further. This design proposal from the UK features a hodge-podge of classic cues with a modern take. Notice the wrap-around windshield and lack of A-pillars. One of the first concepts from GM's California studio. In the background, targets are noticed. You can also see the '70s-inspired design below the photos of the Mustang, etc. This early concept from GM's California studio predates the final concept car. Another concept from GM's California studio again predates the final product. It maybe even goes one step further and shows what a possible production car may apper to be like. Who knows? This alternative concept for the rear styling of the Camaro concept has soft edges, which is pretty different from the sharp-edged design from the final product. The rear-styling that would eventually make it's way onto the finished car. Again, this seems to go a little past concept and to production. Why would a concept car with no worries about street-legality be concerned with a bumper indent? More in a moment. Please refrain from posting until all images are up. 179849[/snapback] these Sang Lee sketches are the best of the bunch.....NO DOUBT
August 19, 200619 yr umm... maybe i'm missing something, but the first sketch (captioned "these two sketches...") includes what is pretty much unmistakably a pontiac vehicle, positioned just above the camaro that should've gotten produced (IMO). those are the proportions I've been raving about for the past, oh, 4+ years.
August 30, 200619 yr Speaking of the concept's design.. check out the pedals! Is that the e-brake on the "dead pedal?"
September 4, 200619 yr 179850[/snapback] anyone else see that "427" badge on the door panel? that... is very exciting Edited September 4, 200619 yr by 04monteintimidator
September 4, 200619 yr Speaking of the concept's design.. check out the pedals! Is that the e-brake on the "dead pedal?" I hope the e-brake goes where it belongs in a sport car... on the center column. not the floor
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