August 29, 200619 yr There is a theory that with modern engineering and equal-length half-shafts that 300hp is the maximum that can be streetable. Cars like the top of the line Cadillac front-drivers (DeVille/DTS, Seville, Eldorado) have 300/305hp ratings.
August 29, 200619 yr Author There is a theory that with modern engineering and equal-length half-shafts that 300hp is the maximum that can be streetable. Cars like the top of the line Cadillac front-drivers (DeVille/DTS, Seville, Eldorado) have 300/305hp ratings. 186310[/snapback] The Deville/DTS, Seville/STS and Eldorado/ETC are 2nd in line with 300 rated hp. What`s number 1?
August 29, 200619 yr Probably the '66 Toronado..but that would be in gross hp, not net.. I'm not sure about current FWD models..
August 29, 200619 yr Author Probably the '66 Toronado..but that would be in gross hp, not net.. I'm not sure about current FWD models.. 186321[/snapback] Use net hp, not gross.
August 29, 200619 yr Author 1970 Cadillac Eldorado? It had 400hp gross, I don't know net. 186324[/snapback] Use net hp, not gross.
August 29, 200619 yr Use net hp, not gross. 186323[/snapback] I have no idea... before sometime in the early '70s, cars used gross hp ratings. Today, net, I think.
August 29, 200619 yr Author I have no idea... before sometime in the early '70s, cars used gross hp ratings. Today, net, I think. 186326[/snapback] Yep, they use net now.
August 29, 200619 yr Use net hp, not gross. 186325[/snapback] are you then implying that the car is post 1976?
August 29, 200619 yr Author are you then implying that the car is post 1976? 186329[/snapback] Nope, it`s being built right now.
August 29, 200619 yr Since it's FWD only, that eliminates Audi's high powered AWD models. All the Japanese FWDers are under 300, I'm pretty sure. I can't think of anything recent that's domestic with over 300hp and FWD.
August 29, 200619 yr Nope, it`s being built right now. 186330[/snapback] post 1976 means.... after 1976.... which is where we are now.. :AH-HA_wink:
August 29, 200619 yr Author post 1976 means.... after 1976.... which is where we are now.. :AH-HA_wink: 186336[/snapback] You`re right
August 29, 200619 yr Lets list the current high powered front drivers: ES = 278 TL Type S = 286 DTS = 275 Caliber SRT-4 = 300 what'd I miss?
August 29, 200619 yr Author Lets list the current high powered front drivers: ES = 278 TL Type S = 286 DTS = 275 Caliber SRT-4 = 300 what'd I miss? 186338[/snapback] You`re missing one. It`s actually 2 cars that share the same platform.
August 29, 200619 yr You`re missing one. It`s actually 2 cars that share the same platform. 186342[/snapback] 3 cars? Impala SS = 303 Monte Carlo SS = 303 Grand Prix GXP = 303
August 29, 200619 yr Author 3 cars? Impala SS = 303 Monte Carlo SS = 303 Grand Prix GXP = 303 186346[/snapback] Good job. I actually forgot abot the Grand Prix
August 29, 200619 yr You`re missing one. It`s actually 2 cars that share the same platform. 186342[/snapback] Lucerne is 275 hp also.
August 29, 200619 yr Ah...Impala SS and Pontiac Grand Prix GXP...forgot about those..the V8 is like 303 hp?
August 29, 200619 yr Author Ah...Impala SS and Pontiac Grand Prix GXP...forgot about those..the V8 is like 303 hp? 186350[/snapback] Yep, 303hp
August 29, 200619 yr Yep, 303hp 186352[/snapback] It's wierd..they just didn't come to mind for a while..kind of invisible cars, I guess...
August 29, 200619 yr Author It's wierd..they just didn't come to mind for a while..kind of invisible cars, I guess... 186353[/snapback] Yep, we don`t sell many of them
August 29, 200619 yr Yep, 303hp 186352[/snapback] The export version of the Cadillac Seville claimed 305hp (DIN)
August 29, 200619 yr Yep, we don`t sell many of them 186354[/snapback] That's because the 300C & Charger are wiping the floor with them. nOtice the only significant differences... Their motor is not transversely mounted & it happens to send power to the rear wheels unlike the now-lame W-body. Owning a 1997 STS for a few years has taught me a few things, one of them being that a 300 horsepower FWD car is useless like Sparrow with a broken wing.
August 29, 200619 yr Um...the only difference the average consiumer notices between an Impala/GP and a 300/Charger is the fact that the W body cars are bland and unoriginal in their styling while the LX cars are rather brash in their styling.
August 29, 200619 yr That's because the 300C & Charger are wiping the floor with them. nOtice the only significant differences... Their motor is not transversely mounted & it happens to send power to the rear wheels unlike the now-lame W-body. Owning a 1997 STS for a few years has taught me a few things, one of them being that a 300 horsepower FWD car is useless like Sparrow with a broken wing. 186417[/snapback] the shark picks up the scent..... What is wrong with the orientation of the engine? while I doubt there are any rear drivers out there that are transversely mounted.... there are front drivers out there that are longitudinatlly mounted. The 300c's predecessor the 300m was longitudinally mounted FWD. Others include: Any GM full size front drivers prior to 1985. VW Passat of the 2001 generation <don't know about the others> All of the Chrysler LH cars. But really 68.... we all know... we all, painfully, know your opinion on FWD cars, hard tops, transversly mounted engines, and Toyota. Must you make a rant in EVERY thread that happens to mention one of those subjects?
August 29, 200619 yr VW Passat of the 2001 generation <don't know about the others>Yes...any Aud-based Volkswagens (first and fourth generation Passats), Volkswagen Polo (US market Fox)Audi (except Volkswagen-based models) Honda Legend (second and third generation) Honda Vigor (first generation) Renault, Lancia, Alfa Romeo (many older models) Toyota Tercel (first generation) Datsun F10/Cherry Saab (prior to the 9000) Subaru (four- and six-cylinder models)
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