The 2005 Buick Excelle sedan & HRV hatchback, sold in China:

Suzuki Forenza and Reno. Imagine if GM did that in the U.S....I think we'd see some C&G members on the news.

LOL...yes there would be an uprising. Pontiac doesn't even have those in the USA.

I think the hatchback would do great here in the states. :rolleyes: Just imagine your local 1970's Buick dealership beautifying it with a fake convertible top, chrome hubcaps, and gold-plated portholes. :blink:

Really these cars are not that far from Buick traditions when you look back. For a few years Buick sold Opels here as Buick Opels.

Does the HRV have DynaRide?

Of course those are the Vehicles that Suzuki says is killing thier Quality ranking.

Edited September 18, 200519 yr by Ghost Dog

Korean cars, American brand, sold in China...how international.

Edited September 18, 200519 yr by moltar

Built in China, with design and specification changes unique to Buick.

Of course those are the Vehicles that Suzuki says is killing thier Quality ranking.

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I read that it depends in what plants these cars are made. Chevrolet's rebadges come from different ones than does Suzukis. Chevy has not had the same quality issues.

Edited September 18, 200519 yr by HarleyEarl

Imagine if GM did that in the U.S....I think we'd see some C&G members on the news.

Imagine if GM does bad things to Pontiac...

Anywho... Wow. I thought Buick of China was better... Boy, how I was wrong. :blink:

Wait, these are considered premium in China?

I wasn't aware the Chinese auto industry is so far behind.

Wait, these are considered premium in China? 

I wasn't aware the Chinese auto industry is so far behind.

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Well, from a "premium" brand, akin to the valiant attempt at an entry-level luxury car and Cadillac, I suppose.

I read that it depends in what plants these cars are made.  Chevrolet's rebadges come from different ones than does Suzukis.  Chevy has not had the same quality issues.

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Umm

Forenza/Lacetti/Optra - Gunsan Plant


Aveo/- Bupyeong plant

Verona/Magnus/Epica -Bupyeong plant

Well, from a "premium" brand, akin to the valiant attempt at an entry-level luxury car and Cadillac, I suppose.

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Or Acura's Civic-based Canadian EL.

Whoa. Those so don't look like a Park Avenue..

Of course those are the Vehicles that Suzuki says is killing thier Quality ranking.

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Yeah but they never had a quality rating in the first place so it doesn't really matter. The Aerio's a nice car though-as roomy as my Olds Cutlass Supreme AND Cutlass Ciera.

Or Acura's Civic-based Canadian EL.

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:unsure:

Only in Canada....

looks ugly just like the 06 civic and all of honda products

doesn't matter. at some point china will kick us all out and take our technology plus the billions invested in these plants and build these vehicles. then they'll pocket the $$. rich them, poor us. why do you think that they make us build plants and make huge investments in their country and imploy their people in order to sell over there.....they want what we got and they are going to take it. they don't honor patents or copyrights or anyones intellectual property.

Wait, these are considered premium in China? 

I wasn't aware the Chinese auto industry is so far behind.

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No. This Buick appeared before the new Chevy lineup expanded. I think the original plan was for Buick to go mainstream, but now they have Chevy.