I just read the line in Sixty8's sig that reads: "In fact, did you know a Chevrolet (small block) V8 with no oil in it and no water in it will last about two hours before it disintegrates? We did it twice. The first time it lasted an hour and 15 minutes and the second time it lasted two hours." It reminded me of something my Physics teacher said he learned from an engineer. That a 60s Muscle Car lets off more emissions while not running than a new car does turned on?

huh? explain your scenario better please

It reminded me of something my Physics teacher said he learned from an engineer. That a 60s Muscle Car lets off more emissions while not running than a new car does turned on?

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I think we discussed this once before...wasn't the reason because of the seals weren't very good on the gas tanks on old cars so they would seep gas fumes all the time including when turned off?

Without being started, an older muscle car will let off more harmful emissions (the stuff that kills the environment) than a newer car that is running. In other words, if you took two EXACT homes (with an attached garage) with the EXACT people and... 1. In one CLOSED garage placed a 67 Corvette in there turned off 2. In the other CLOSED garage placed a 2004 GTO, but turned it on ...the people in the 67 Vette's house would die first with all ventilation cut off.

Viper??? You freaking sellout... :P

Yessir. Viper is the ultimate car, IMO. Z06 has better interior and probably features too, but fast is fast. I don't care if you're at 3.6 0-60 or 3.9... I'm sure they feel the same. The Viper's exterior design is just an inspiration to me. And I don't even know why.

1. In one CLOSED garage placed a 67 Corvette in there turned off
2. In the other CLOSED garage placed a 2004 GTO, but turned it on
...the people in the 67 Vette's house would die first with all ventilation cut off.

That's ridiculous! The volume of the GTO's exhaust (which does not contain any oxygen) would overwhelm the occupants (they're in the garage, right??) before the painfully slow evaporative vapors from the Corvette's tank could do the same.
Modern gas tanks are vented; they have to be or they'd collapse as the car drained the fuel. Do they pass the gas tank venting thru charcoal canisters or some such- is that the 'trick'?

Are we talking about the engine or gas tanks? :blink: Confused... :lol:

This whole thing comes off as an automotive urban legend. I assumed it was the gas tank, because a non-running vintage engine cannot be giving off even 1/10th the required "emissions" to kill humans in a closed garage.

This whole thing comes off as an automotive urban legend. I assumed it was the gas tank, because a non-running vintage engine cannot be giving off even 1/10th the required "emissions" to kill humans in a closed garage.

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Really ! Then the charcoal evap/vent loop is fairly old too correct ?

Hey Ill get naked and rub myself all over that 67 Vette*** alone and in a garage but with that 04 GTO running Ill be kicking the door down just to get out because its so ugly :P just kiddin I like GTO but Im not going to sniff the fumes.

***not to be trusted alone with anyones finely sculped car <_<

Seriously I dont know about 6T8's quotes, seems like it would be impossible and I personally would doubt it without seeing it, Chevy was not known for best metalurgy but maybe thats why, combined with lead in gas, who knows. That still isnt going to lube the journals. Maybe they were using STP, maybe it was an STP test.

I did read an account (5 years ago) by a Ferrari driver of I think 66 or so LeMans about one of the P cars. It was the smaller class because the larger Ferraris failed. He claimed that the car had blown rad, or hose or water pump, something where it ran a very long time without coolant and still finished the race. I should look and see if its still on the web somewhere. I found that hard to believe too but for LeMans there at least used to be some thought put into this kind of stuff, like all the vents that used to be on the cars.

Really ! Then the charcoal evap/vent loop is fairly old too correct ?

Charcoal canisters fall under emission controls, of course, and thusly I believe they came into widespread being in the mid '70s: my '73 440 Charger didn't have one but my '78 225 Volare did.

75/76 Olds 350 in "88" had them and cat too. I just saw some kind of Evap/ventilation system in my friends 55 "88".