Posted November 16, 200618 yr Cadillac to Unveil Stretched DTS More from the upcoming Los Angeles Auto Show later this month: Cadillac will unveil a new stretched long-wheelbase version of the Cadillac DTS sedan and will name it DTS-L. The car will be in dealerships early next year and will have the same 4.6 liter V8 engine that will produce 294 horsepower. The Cadillac DTS-L will have an extra 8 inches of space with the company’s “VIP privacy” rear seating.
November 16, 200618 yr So this is how Cadillac will push the DTS name upmarket... Hmmm... If the DTS-L goes into the low $70's fully loaded, that would open it up for the next-gen RWD DTS to start at a much higher price point.
November 17, 200618 yr answer to a question no one is asking i fear....but i can see what ven said as being accurate, this car will test the waters for pricier Caddy sedans.
November 17, 200618 yr Author Reminds me of the '97-'99 Fleetwood Limited, which was simply a stretched DeVille with rear vanity mirrors, better center console, and footrests.
November 17, 200618 yr Interested to see the consumer reaction, tho I am disappointed at the unoriginality of the ubiquitous "L" designation. Cadillac is better than that.
November 17, 200618 yr I'm ok with the -L suffix until the K body is gone...but after that, I'd really like to see Cadillac be different and give its cars real names. BTW, Crimson Pearl is a beautiful color.
November 17, 200618 yr http://autodeadline.com/detail?source=Cadi...756896&mime=JPG 216701[/snapback] I don't get it. That link goes to the old armored stretch Deville. Are you saying this is the updated version? I ask because the article said this would be available in dealerships, and I've never seen one of the armored cars in a dealership.
November 17, 200618 yr I don't get it. That link goes to the old armored stretch Deville. Are you saying this is the updated version? I ask because the article said this would be available in dealerships, and I've never seen one of the armored cars in a dealership. 216756[/snapback] I think he's saying take that and add the updates and there's your DTS-L, though that's probably what most people were envisioning anyways.
November 17, 200618 yr Cadillac setting up a beachhead for an S-class competitor? That is good news. Guess STS does not have to grow then.
November 17, 200618 yr I think he's saying take that and add the updates and there's your DTS-L, though that's probably what most people were envisioning anyways. 216761[/snapback] But wasn't the armored one actually based on a truck platform? This still sounds K-body to me...I mean I have no problem envisioning what this will be based on the short description in the article...my father owns a DTS and I can easily imagine the stretch.
November 17, 200618 yr I have no specifics on the armored DTS, but Cadillac does build a commercial chassis again- saw it on TV last year: strengthened DTS with HD suspension, brakes and wheels. DTS is a unibody, no? Putting the DTS FWD body on a independant RWD frame would not be an easy or inexpensive undertaking. 'Truck frame' sounds highly improbable (unless the armored DTS has frame rails hanging down below the rockers and giant tire-wheelwell gaps, then nevermind).
November 17, 200618 yr Cadillac setting up a beachhead for an S-class competitor? That is good news. Guess STS does not have to grow then. 216794[/snapback] A FWD sedan with a 4spd automatic is hardly an S-class competitor...
November 17, 200618 yr Yeah DeVille is a unibody car. I love the Crimson Pearl/Tintocoat paint (the Red Jewel that I never see just isn't special at all), and this asks: what's after this for Cadillac?
November 17, 200618 yr A FWD sedan with a 4spd automatic is hardly an S-class competitor... 216839[/snapback] No it certainly is not. But if the DTS is to be replaced by a Zeta based Sedan for 2010-11 then the size will make sense. I hope that is what he means.
November 17, 200618 yr I have no specifics on the armored DTS, but Cadillac does build a commercial chassis again- saw it on TV last year: strengthened DTS with HD suspension, brakes and wheels. DTS is a unibody, no? Putting the DTS FWD body on a independant RWD frame would not be an easy or inexpensive undertaking. 'Truck frame' sounds highly improbable (unless the armored DTS has frame rails hanging down below the rockers and giant tire-wheelwell gaps, then nevermind). 216830[/snapback] Well the Presidential limo is on a truck chassis with a DTS shell...I'm not sure about the other armored vehicles, hence the question. Armoring a car is an expensive undertaking too.My guess is the DTS-L is just a stretched DTS...
November 17, 200618 yr LAAAAAAAAME. DIE FWD CADILLACS!!! Just fu*king die already damnit. RWD is the future for ANY & ALL luxury cars, w/ rear-biased AWD optional.
November 17, 200618 yr LAAAAAAAAME. DIE FWD CADILLACS!!! Just fu*king die already damnit. RWD is the future for ANY & ALL luxury cars, w/ rear-biased AWD optional. 216932[/snapback] you forgot BOF.
November 18, 200618 yr This is a good car, I doubt they plan on selling a large volumn but its an easy streach. These chaufer driven people dont care what wheels drive their car. Cadillac will alienate many of the Northern buyers by going to all RWD. People have their choice now and how do the numbers compare ? Whats an "S class".....................
November 18, 200618 yr Whats an "S class"..................... 217181[/snapback] It's the world's best-selling large luxury sedan. Edit: Edited November 18, 200618 yr by empowah
November 19, 200618 yr It's the world's best-selling large luxury sedan. Edit: 217211[/snapback] Oh Lord wont you buy me a Mercedes Benz my friends all drive Porsches I must make a menz Hey look everybody I got me a Mercedes Benz and it only cost $87,000
November 19, 200618 yr If this is for general retail (the public) then it's interesting. It could be that GM is planning to push DTS upmarket for the next generation. Either that, or it's a response of some sort to the LWB Chrysler 300's.
November 19, 200618 yr So this is how Cadillac will push the DTS name upmarket... Hmmm... If the DTS-L goes into the low $70's fully loaded, that would open it up for the next-gen RWD DTS to start at a much higher price point. 216553[/snapback] i don't see that being the main reason. Lincoln has a L version, and the 300C will soon. This is just another way to capture more market share. And LONG overdue at that!
November 19, 200618 yr Eh, I still don't see the appeal in the S-class. I like the CLS much, much more.
November 19, 200618 yr along with the CLS, 3-series, XJR........S-class is one of the most perfectly designed and exhilirating sedans on the road today. It's not brand snobbery razor....the imports just get it right. Edited November 19, 200618 yr by turbo200
November 19, 200618 yr S-class is past-peak: the mazda design cues (fenders) are patently atrocious. There are also about 300 too many cut lines & panel seams for such an expensive car.
November 19, 200618 yr Jesus people let it go... I'm sure Cadillac spent all of $3 R&D on the new DTS-L. It doesn't take too many dollars to decide to splice 6" of metal and glass into a car and sell it for whatever the buying public will pay. It's a no-brainer and Cadillac should be shamed for not doing it sooner. Don't lose any sleep over it. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Accubuilt, Inc. is doing the stretch for Cadillac just like they're doing the stretch for Chrysler's 300. They've been building hearses and limos for years now. Edited November 19, 200618 yr by Cadavillac
November 19, 200618 yr Here's the Accubuilt DES http://www.cadillacdes.com/images/DESExt4.jpg http://www.cadillacdes.com/images/DESExt6.jpg http://www.cadillacdes.com/SCAN_1_2int.jpg http://www.cadillacdes.com/DES_Interior.jpg http://www.cadillacdes.com/00099_DE_02CC2.jpg
November 19, 200618 yr $78000 forgiving the lacking design of the interior and front facia, Id take the V {***its good to see that they did not extend the console all the way down to the throttle pedal***}
November 20, 200618 yr I say bring China's SLS over here as the STS, V-ify it (would love to see that new interior V-ed), and I'd definitely take that.
November 20, 200618 yr I say bring China's SLS over here as the STS, V-ify it (would love to see that new interior V-ed), and I'd definitely take that. 217825[/snapback] I'd rather see that as well, but I alsom remember evok posting he didn't know if the SLS could be built in Lansing. Perhaps the DTS-L is the answer to his doubts...
November 20, 200618 yr Here's the Accubuilt DES http://www.cadillacdes.com/images/DESExt4.jpg http://www.cadillacdes.com/images/DESExt6.jpg http://www.cadillacdes.com/SCAN_1_2int.jpg http://www.cadillacdes.com/DES_Interior.jpg http://www.cadillacdes.com/00099_DE_02CC2.jpg 217495[/snapback] so what would look better, a hacked and stretched DTS or would a photochop actually look better (end product)? maybe this is a way for Caddy to chintz out and not build the sixteen, but still have a flagship. that's what the contorted michigan minds would think I bet.
November 20, 200618 yr I'm fine with a DTS-L. It just sounds like the ultimate cush-mobile. In ten years you can buy one used for $5000, and give it to your kid who's in High School. It'll be sweet because it has a nice engine, gobs and gobs of room, and is very comfortable. Just remember, comfort never goes out of style. That's why I prefer early '90's Buicks and Caprices to anything else early '90's: they are dang comfortable inside.
November 20, 200618 yr $78000 217607[/snapback] as much as i like the v....it is boring compared to that s-class, for me. in person there is no competition...
November 20, 200618 yr Author The S really looks silly with this exaggerated wheel arches. Less luxurious, more...I don't know...cheap.
November 20, 200618 yr Disagree. I think the big wheel arches add class to it, as they kinda evoke the huge wheel arches on pre-war cars.
November 21, 200618 yr Let's hope this doesn't become another STS shouting match One note on the STS... I happen to love its interior... but I think it's because I drive a '90 Sierra.
