http://jalopnik.com/cars/spy-photos/2010-b...osse-304363.php

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/27/spy-sho...buick-lacrosse/

My that's a high beltline! It already looks better than the current dumpy LaCrosse....can't wait to see more!

Where have I seen those air vents and the nav screen before? hmmmm...

Edit: Can't post copyrighted pics - Fly

I'm really starting to wonder.....

Looks good. Very good stance. I can't wait to see it.

This looks like an ;09 product. Way to polished to be '10. I would bet that the reports Buick has some releases this year are true.

This looks like an ;09 product. Way to polished to be '10.

Negatory. '10MY that starts production in the first quarter of '09.

Edited September 27, 200718 yr by Chris_Doane

It looks shorter... I see the Chinese Buick influence though. Their LaCrosse was shorter than ours. That car in those photos has to be between 190-195 inches long. It will be interesting to see the end result.

To quote the past tag lines:

The great American Road again will belong to Buick .

It's Buick.

Negatory. '10MY that starts production in the first quarter of '09.

Sure this won't be like the Tahoe and be a Sept. 08 launch '10 product? Come on... the design is totally finished, grill, interior, everything... I am sure this is powertrain and suspension tuning. Has to be closer than 1Q09.

holy crap that looks pretty good so far! are we sure this isn't an MY 09 product?

I hope that the production version looks less plain than this prototype. Portholes and bodyside moldings HAVE to be part of the equation or it will just end up looking like any other old generic Asian clone with a Buick grille grafted on!

]"Brenda Priddy's kept spy-man Chris Doane"

- Jalopnik

Is Chris Doane a kept boy and Brenda Priddy a Sugar Mamma?

are we sure this isn't an MY 09 product?

Has to be closer than 1Q09.

It's not. I'm sure.

- Jalopnik

Is Chris Doane a kept boy and Brenda Priddy a Sugar Mamma?

Hahah....that's NOT part of our working arrangement!

Edited September 27, 200718 yr by Chris_Doane

This is exciting, and I haven't even looked at the pictures yet.

That looks a 100 times better. Nice wheels, and finally with a little dish to them. Liking the "CTS like" front valance in that it comes down and doesn't return back 2 feet before turning downward. Very nice proportions.

Is this Epsilon 2?

Yes! It's Eps II

I like what I see so far!

Any word on width? The current Epsilons are too narrow for upper-midsize duty.

Spy pics look promising. It's very ES350-like, but probably better.

Edited September 27, 200718 yr by empowah

I'm not feeling the grille. Reminds of the LG Riv...

Any word on width? The current Epsilons are too narrow for upper-midsize duty.

Spy pics look promising. It's very ES350-like, but probably better.

Based on early mules in cut and stretched Vectra bodies, the base EP II looks to be 2" wider and have a 2" longer wheelbase.

I'm not liking that grille, and overall, I think it looks too much like a GS 350.

You rule!

The way the c-pillar blends into the decklid seems to have some added disguise beneath the camo. That's why the proportions look a bit strange...

Edited September 27, 200718 yr by ZL-1

Well, it definitely has more presence than the current LaCrosse! I can't wait to see more of this car... it's too camouflaged for me to picture it.

My that's a high beltline! It already looks better than the current dumpy LaCrosse....can't wait to see more!

I noticed the beltline...my first thought was that it reminds me of a disguised Dodge Avenger.

Well, it definitely has more presence than the current LaCrosse! I can't wait to see more of this car... it's too camouflaged for me to picture it.

We'll help you out with that in the coming days.

We'll help you out with that in the coming days.

Ohhhhh really now Fly?

Thus far, I'm not so sure I like it...

The rear reminds me too much of the bland asian look that EVERYONE is copying now (Think: Maxima) Although that might be part of the camo too.

There is a HUGE gap between the body of the car and the tires which makes this (supposedly tailored) luxury sedan look sloppy and uncoordinated.

Of course, I can't form a real judgement based on these camo-ed pix alone.

Chris,

Nice job! It definitely needs portholes and some more chrome.

How did security react when they spotted you?

Also, will we see more pictures of this car?

Ohhhhh really now Fly?

I'm wondering if we'll see some rendering or cgi soon. I'd sure like to see it!

Chris,

Nice job! It definitely needs portholes and some more chrome.

How did security react when they spotted you?

Chased him down with a diesel Silverado HD.

Hey C D, they say you're a kept man, me too buddy, I feel your pain!

Thus far, I'm not so sure I like it...

The rear reminds me too much of the bland asian look that EVERYONE is copying now (Think: Maxima) Although that might be part of the camo too.

i was thinking that too, at least how the rear glass is inset from the c pillars (longer trunk?)

and the nose is shorter, quite noticable

i think everyone will have high hopes for this as the camo comes off... it should be good, i just want to see more before i say more.

How did security react when they spotted you?

They never did.

I am guessing it will be similar size and shape to the Malibu, different front and rear. The 08 Malibu looks great on the outside, it will be tough to make a Buick look better than that, and not look like a frumpy geezer mobile like their current lineup appears. I bet they put cloth bench, plastic wheel covers and a pushrod V6 in the base model so they can have a $22,900 MSRP, and sell them to Avis.

I am guessing it will be similar size and shape to the Malibu, different front and rear. The 08 Malibu looks great on the outside, it will be tough to make a Buick look better than that, and not look like a frumpy geezer mobile like their current lineup appears. I bet they put cloth bench, plastic wheel covers and a pushrod V6 in the base model so they can have a $22,900 MSRP, and sell them to Avis.

This car will probably be just as long as the Malibu, if not a few inches shorter. It's sure to be a wider vehicle. One of the main gripes of the current Epsilon platform is that it's narrow. Remember, this car is based on EPII, so it really isn't related to the new Malibu in any way. The next gen Malibu will share this Next Gen LaX's platform, but that's years away. Here's hoping the do away with the bench (and my true dream is no cloth, either), alloy wheels standard, and the HFV6 making 290HP. While I'm at it, PLEASE BUICK, USE GENUINE WOOD IN THIS CAR. Anything less would be a disservice. This car should be a true ES350 competitor, and that means real materials and a $30k starting part (with the product to justify that).

Hmm...quite a heavy design...very Asian. Definitely lacks the voluptuousness of legendary Buicks. We'll see what develops, but as of now, I'm not feeling it. Hopefully the devil's in the details, as they say.

And is it me or do the NG LaCrosse and Aura/Insignia have the same center stack?

Thus far, I'm not so sure I like it...

The rear reminds me too much of the bland asian look that EVERYONE is copying now (Think: Maxima) Although that might be part of the camo too.

There is a HUGE gap between the body of the car and the tires which makes this (supposedly tailored) luxury sedan look sloppy and uncoordinated.

Of course, I can't form a real judgement based on these camo-ed pix alone.

I think it's just the camo. If you look closely there is a quarter window that extends into the rear camo cover. At first when I saw it I thought Prius, but then a closer look at a different angle it was better.

And that gap I think it's just because they're testing a new platform. By far I've only seen the old AMC wagons and the Calibers with that much ride height.

Looking at the greenhouse, the overall shape reminds me of a scrunched up, stubbier ES.

Looks good, i've heard rumors that it will be called regal. ANy truth to that?

This car will likely be priced between the Malibu & CTS.

Here's my guess for the next Buick Regal.

CX-$22k

CX V-6-$25k

CXL-$25k

CXL V-6 $28k

CXS $31k

Engines?

2.4L 190hp I-4 w/ DI

3.6L 290hp V-6 w/ DI & AFM

Transmissions?

5spd Auto for CX, CXL

6spd Auto for CX V-6, CXL(optional?), CXL V-6, CXS

With this car hitting the sweet spot between $20-40k, I believe it will surpass 200k in sales easily. A coupe & convertible couldn't hurt.

Edited September 28, 200718 yr by carman21

Hmm.. I wonder if we'll be seeing this one soon. January Detroit show?

I hope so

Hmm.. I wonder if we'll be seeing this one soon. January Detroit show?

My guess is NYIAS (April '08) or NAIAS09 (Jan '09)

reminds me of the maxima...

Looks good, i've heard rumors that it will be called regal. ANy truth to that?

It's possible.

Hmm.. I wonder if we'll be seeing this one soon. January Detroit show?

Nah that would be too soon. They won't start building them until Feb 2009.

Edited September 28, 200718 yr by Chris_Doane

The Enclave concept was unveiled at NAIAS in January 2006.

The production version was unveiled in LA in November 2006.

Enclave production began in May 2007.

If production of the 2010 Regal/Lacrosse begins in February 2009, we could see it unveiled in Detroit this January.

This car will likely be priced between the Malibu & CTS.

Here's my guess for the next Buick Regal.

CX-$22k

CX V-6-$25k

CXL-$25k

CXL V-6 $28k

CXS $31k

Engines?

2.4L 190hp I-4 w/ DI

3.6L 290hp V-6 w/ DI & AFM

Transmissions?

5spd Auto for CX, CXL

6spd Auto for CX V-6, CXL(optional?), CXL V-6, CXS

With this car hitting the sweet spot between $20-40k, I believe it will surpass 200k in sales easily. A coupe & convertible couldn't hurt.

No way.

First of all, with the new Malibu starting at around 20 and ending in upper 20's, and with the Aura starting around 23 (I think) and ending in upper 20's, I don't think the premium marque should start at 22k. I'd say it should start at around 25/26k. Secondly, no 4-cylinder engine. Thirdly, if in all these years they didn't dump a 5-speed auto in Buicks, or even the Cadillac DTS, what makes you think they'd start doing that now that cheaper cars, (ie Malibu, G6, and Aura) have a 6-speed available, that they wouldn't make that standard?

I see this possible:

CX/CXL 3.6L at around 250hp

CXS 3.6L DI at around 290hp

Super 3.6L DI or 5.3L V8, 300-320hp (and this is pushing the limits of my mind)

we could see it unveiled in Detroit this January.

Negatory.

If they decided to do some concept...maybe. Seems pretty unlikely they would bother to do a concept though. Too much other stuff going on.

Edited September 28, 200718 yr by Chris_Doane

looks very clumsy. pass.

looks very clumsy. pass.

How can you make out anything through that camo there Debbie Downer?

looks very clumsy. pass.

There's loads of camo, reg: look at lumps on the doors beneath the black camo. They're working hard to hide the car's shape from CGI-telented people :AH-HA_wink:

There are some things you can see, though heavily camouflaged. The center stack on the interior is the same as the previous illustration. Wish I could understand what detail is included in the sweeping area from stack to side vent. The rocker panel includes an indented, rectangular shape that looks very much like the Riviera concept's lighted chrome strip. I like the larger sun roof too.

There's loads of camo, reg: look at lumps on the doors beneath the black camo. They're working hard to hide the car's shape from CGI-telented people :AH-HA_wink:

maybe so, but it looks top heavy and short.

the enclave has that short look on its front end too. i'd call it 'compact looking', in the sense of not looking over streched. maybe that's a new Buick design cue...