November 30, 200718 yr Well it looks like the UTE is going to be a G8 ST per Autoblog reports. Here is what was posted. Mike Levine over at Pickuptruck.com has managed to scoop a tasty nugget of info about the Pontiac-branded ute that will soon be for sale in the U.S. The Aussie-import based on the same platform as the rear-wheel-drive G8 sedan will be called the G8 ST, as in "Sport Truck". That pang of disappointment you feel is the missed opportunity of paying homage to GM's most well known car-based pickups and their colorful names: the Chevy El Camino and GMC Caballero. Rather than dubbing Pontiac's ute the "Tamale" or "El Camino Redux", we get a measly little two-letter suffix. Sigh. Also of note is that the pickup will only be available with a 6.0L V8 and is likely to start around $31,000.
November 30, 200718 yr Meh, so it gets a stupid alphanumeric - what else is new? Starting at 31k? what happened to being less expensive than the sedan? No matter really, I still plan to get one. So is this confirmation that it will happen, or more "what if"? Don't mind me, I'm just tired and grumpy this evening.
November 30, 200718 yr I think ST is fine. If G8 gets changed to a non-alphanumeric name, then I can see changing ST to something else.
November 30, 200718 yr Meh, so it gets a stupid alphanumeric - what else is new? Starting at 31k? what happened to being less expensive than the sedan? No matter really, I still plan to get one. So is this confirmation that it will happen, or more "what if"? Don't mind me, I'm just tired and grumpy this evening. My pension fund thanks you! Why are you tired and grumpy this evening?
November 30, 200718 yr My pension fund thanks you! Why are you tired and grumpy this evening? Nothing big, really. I just got too little sleep last night, busted my butt today, and have to go out tonight. The way I feel right now, I'd rather just get some sleep - but that's not going to happen.
December 1, 200718 yr Author I am glad this is going over better than I expected as it would not change a thing to complain anyway.
December 1, 200718 yr In the early '90s, GMC referred to their sporty versions of the Sierra and Sonoma pickups as "ST" - for sport trucks. What's old is new again.
December 1, 200718 yr Well Camino, you can always debadge it and then stick a couple Chevy emblems and an El Camino emblem :AH-HA_wink:
December 1, 200718 yr Well, well... How fu[CENSORED]ng creative... I know right? I do wish we'd get real names from Pontiac...it's bad enough Cadillac is DLS FLR CVS ATT MIC, and so on
December 1, 200718 yr I don't care what it's called... just bring it over already. Strolling into the local Pontiac dealership and seeing the G8 S, G8 ST, and G8 SW (oooh, it is sort of creative! ) parked next to each other will be a lust-filled experience.
December 1, 200718 yr I don't care what it's called... just bring it over already. Strolling into the local Pontiac dealership and seeing the G8 S, G8 ST, and G8 SW (oooh, it is sort of creative! ) parked next to each other will be a lust-filled experience. True
December 1, 200718 yr typhoon.... why not just G8 utility? and, they really ought to offer this with a v6. it'll be interesting to see what volume of these they bring over. my guess is only about 5,000 but in and of itself that should create lots of publicity. that, and its a unique offering for GM in the market. Edited December 1, 200718 yr by regfootball
December 1, 200718 yr I guess I'm OK with this. I like that they're making it part of the G8 family...not sure why, but I do. The only thing that troubles me is that this is an indication that Pontiac is moving toward a muscle-car performance brand. But, that's going to overlap some of what Chevy does. They should have just made an El Camino for Chevy if they really wanted this car and focused Pontiac on being more of a sport performance brand. They already had a good start with the Solstice.
December 1, 200718 yr Well Camino, you can always debadge it and then stick a couple Chevy emblems and an El Camino emblem :AH-HA_wink: I could do more than that. I could get a ME market Chevy nose for it, but I don't think I'll bother. It is what it is, stupid name and all. Debadging is tempting though. GM has too much invested in this stupid alphanumeric scheme to abandon it for a while. So we are stuck with it for now. As long as the product is good, I plan to overlook the crappy names.
December 1, 200718 yr You can tick-tock the asinine alphanumerics all you want, just leave the cars themselves the hell alone!
December 1, 200718 yr You can tick-tock the asinine alphanumerics all you want, just leave the cars themselves the hell alone! I'm just a messenger, for one more powerful than I. I'm like an angel of the Lord, yeah that's it, just like an angel of the Lord! :AH-HA_wink: Edited December 1, 200718 yr by Pontiac Custom-S
December 1, 200718 yr I'm just a messenger, for one more powerful than I. I'm like an angel of the Lord, yeah that's it, just like an angel of the Lord! :AH-HA_wink:I didn't know mental asylums let their patients be messengers.. Well, I guess I learn something new every day!
December 1, 200718 yr I'm just a messenger, for one more powerful than I. I'm like an angel of the Lord, yeah that's it, just like an angel of the Lord! :AH-HA_wink: +1
December 1, 200718 yr What if they offer a 2.9 diesel version? What will they call that? STD???One would need a condom to drive that :rotflmao:
December 1, 200718 yr I'm just a messenger, for one more powerful than I. I'm like an angel of the Lord, yeah that's it, just like an angel of the Lord! :AH-HA_wink: Uh-huh..more like a messenger of the Devil (not that I believe in any of that heaven/hell/God/Devil stuff.. I'm a rational, secular atheist).
December 1, 200718 yr In the early '90s, GMC referred to their sporty versions of the Sierra and Sonoma pickups as "ST" - for sport trucks. What's old is new again. You are correct sir. Since GMC and Pontiac and Buick are in the same dealerships, and a apart of the same marketing team, it makes sense. This too shall pass! TICK-TOCK! :AH-HA_wink: Hmm.... I wonder what you are referring to??? Edited December 1, 200718 yr by NINETY EIGHT REGENCY
December 1, 200718 yr You are correct sir. Since GMC and Pontiac and Buick are in the same dealerships, and a apart of the same marketing tem, it makes sense. Hmm.... I wonder what you are referring to??? Reading between the lines, I think PCS means in a few years the Pontiac-Buick-GMC dealers will become Buick-GMC dealers when Pontiac goes the way of Oldsmobile..
December 2, 200718 yr How long are we going to have to be reading this t i c k - t o c k crap? We get it already. Everytime I type in t i c k t o c k with no spaces between, HOLDEN LIVES shows up in its place once its posted. What's up with that? Edited December 2, 200718 yr by K.C.
December 2, 200718 yr HOLDEN LIVES Cool... I had typed in PCS's phrase...looks like one of the admins has tweaked the site to filter out PCS's stupid buzzphrase.. Edited December 2, 200718 yr by moltar
December 2, 200718 yr Author I'm just a messenger, for one more powerful than I. I'm like an angel of the Lord, yeah that's it, just like an angel of the Lord! :AH-HA_wink: Ah! To love the sound of ones own keyboard clicking. Satan was a Angel too but God was smart enough to cast him out! It seems he thought he knew more than God and Bob Lutz. :AH-HA_wink:
December 2, 200718 yr I didn't know mental asylums let their patients be messengers.. Well, I guess I learn something new every day! This really shows GM's excellent corporate responsibility.
December 2, 200718 yr It's unfortunate that it won't come with the V6. Not everybody wants or needs 361 hp. As for ST, it could be worse. Still, I associate it with Dodge.
December 2, 200718 yr It's unfortunate that it won't come with the V6. Not everybody wants or needs 361 hp. As for ST, it could be worse. Still, I associate it with Dodge. There just won't be enough of them to offer the V6. With production as low as it will have to be, GM will want to sell only units that maximize profits. As for me, I'm hoping for at least 400HP in a GXP version, which I may completely debadge.
December 2, 200718 yr There just won't be enough of them to offer the V6. With production as low as it will have to be, GM will want to sell only units that maximize profits. As for me, I'm hoping for at least 400HP in a GXP version, which I may completely debadge. You know you want to do it. Come on Camino. You will be so cool if you do.
December 2, 200718 yr We shall see. I should have plenty of time to decide as it will likely be a second model year car.
December 2, 200718 yr We shall see. I should have plenty of time to decide as it will likely be a second model year car. Im going with Space Truck
December 2, 200718 yr Im going with Space Truck Now why didn't I think of that! Should have been the first thing that came to my mind!
December 2, 200718 yr first thing, beautiful car... 2nd... i thought those a 68-72 elk had frameless windows?
December 2, 200718 yr first thing, beautiful car... 2nd... i thought those a 68-72 elk had frameless windows? Thanks. Nope, no frameless windows until '73. The Chevelles got an update (which eliminated the wing windows among other things) , but the wagons and El Caminos retained the original '68 design and kept their wing windows. If you look closely at an El Camino or wagon, you will see that the front fenders are not the same as a Chevelle coupe.
December 2, 200718 yr Supersport: You can see more pics of it in this thread http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...?showtopic=6717
December 2, 200718 yr im in love with it i noticed a while ago that my friends 70 chevelle was the only body style without wings, didnt know about the window frames... did the Malibu 2 door posts have frames?.. jw... and whats the diff on the front fenders?
December 2, 200718 yr im in love with it i noticed a while ago that my friends 70 chevelle was the only body style without wings, didnt know about the window frames... did the Malibu 2 door posts have frames?.. jw... and whats the diff on the front fenders? The 2-door post cars had frames ( '68 only IIRC) and those cars had wings. I believe the change was in '69. If you look at the rear of the front fenders on a Camino or a wagon, you will see that they are relatively flat, on a Coupe, they are rounded (curved outward) from top to bottom. They will not interchange.
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