http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/03/spy-sho...interior-shots/

Curiously, there's some Holden Zetas on the car carrier as well.

If you read the jackass comments on Autoblog -> It is proof that these kind of spy photos are nothing but damaging. That interior is nothing but a taped and glued together mule, but the comments read "horrible plastics used" and "what wrong with GM using all that gray plastic." These fn' people are idiots. No wonder I'm so anti-social. The general public is a bunch a morons. Back to my cave.

You just beat me to posting this,Z!

I want that truck to deliver ALL of those to my house.

I find it a very good sign that both an HSV Maloo and A Camo'd Commodore wagon are going for cold weather testing!

But I have to wonder why a Middle East Chevy Lumina is part of the group.

EDIT: it isn't a Lumina, the white ME Chevy is a Caprice! And it looks great!

That center stack is a crazy! Kudos to GM for thinking outside the box. Not sure about the usefulness of those gauges, though.

Take a closer look:

Well, the LWB white one is prolly a powertrain mule for either the DTS, Lucerne, or Impala, there's two Camaros... That Ute certainly looks promising, so does the wagon. I would surmise the black Commodore is a mule for the G8 GXP.

I want to know what side the steering wheels are on in each of these cars.

The more I look at the white Caprice, the easier it is to see an Impala SS that would echo the 94-96 cars perfectly.

I want to know what side the steering wheels are on in each of these cars.

The more I look at the white Caprice, the easier it is to see an Impala SS that would echo the 94-96 cars perfectly.

I want the wagon !!!!

Well, from the UAW agreement it's safe to assume that the plan for 2 LWB Zetas to have production in the USA are firmed up. One of them has got to be the DTS, so the other can only be Impala/Caprice or Lucerne.

The real thing from GM Fastlane blog:http://www.fastlane.gmblogs.com/

It's odd that the wagon is cammo'd

Like the Camaro the wagon has only been shown in concept form—production models won't appear for 6-9 moths or more.

I want to know what side the steering wheels are on in each of these cars.

The more I look at the white Caprice, the easier it is to see an Impala SS that would echo the 94-96 cars perfectly.

Not want to sound overoptimistic, but I definitely see some GMNA zetas in those "uncovered" sedans.

Like the Camaro the wagon has only been shown in concept form—production models won't appear for 6-9 moths or more.

Or it is a G8 wagon mule. We've already seen plenty of pre-productions wagon pics.

You know it gets very very cold in China!

OK, how does a smiley I didn't add show up in a post?

Griff: believe me, I had no intention of it being there.

Anybody know where the key to the truck is?

Camino, I'll drop the Marloo at your house first...

You know it gets very very cold in China!

NOOOOOO!

Anybody know where the key to the truck is?

Camino, I'll drop the Marloo at your house first...

Works for me!

The real thing from GM Fastlane blog:http://www.fastlane.gmblogs.com/

Too bad that pic is so small.

Well, the LWB white one is prolly a powertrain mule for either the DTS, Lucerne, or Impala, there's two Camaros... That Ute certainly looks promising, so does the wagon. I would surmise the black Commodore is a mule for the G8 GXP.

Impala cancelled, Lucerne and DTS about to be.

Other than a Silverado, that truck is hauling every GM model I want enough to go buy.

Impala cancelled, Lucerne and DTS about to be.

In violation of the new UAW contract?

In violation of the new UAW contract?

I thought you would know I was talking about the RWD Zeta versions, I will be clearer next time. :AH-HA_wink:

I thought you would know I was talking about the RWD Zeta versions, I will be clearer next time. :AH-HA_wink:

So the three will still exist in FWD or no? I'm most concerned about the Lucerne.

Edited January 3, 200818 yr by vonVeezelsnider

I thought you would know I was talking about the RWD Zeta versions, I will be clearer next time. :AH-HA_wink:

Which are part of the deal. Unless two other zetas are to be built there.

Geez PCS...you just let strange men in Europe with cameras walk up to the prototypes, open the doors and get in?

Which are part of the deal. Unless two other zetas are to be built there.

The magic 8 ball says things will become clearer soon. What is key here is that this is Artic weather testing and it gets very, very cold in China & Korea. You've seen MASH I'm sure. That will explain ur Chevy Caprice.

Edited January 3, 200818 yr by Pontiac Custom-S

HOT!!!!

I like Elements of the interior, but Overall I don't know.....but it's a mule. I wouldn't suprised if most of the dash was non-functioning.

Geez PCS...you just let strange men in Europe with cameras walk up to the prototypes, open the doors and get in?

Well I'm in the USA for the next 3 weeks, see what kind of $h! goes on when I'm busy watching you?

Well I'm in the USA for the next 3 weeks, see what kind of $h! goes on when I'm busy watching you?

Poor excuse, sir.

The magic 8 ball says things will become clearer soon. What is key here is that this is Artic weather testing and it gets very, very cold in China & Korea. You've seen MASH I'm sure. That will explain ur Chevy Caprice.

Umm, seems to me it would be a Buick if China were the reason - it gets awful Hot in the Middle East where this car is sold.

Besides, I'm more interested that an HSV Maloo and the wagon are being cold weather tested.

EDIT: And that doesn't answer how the Buick/Caddy zetas can be cancelled when the UAW agreement includes them.

Besides, I'm more interested that an HSV Maloo and the wagon are being cold weather tested.

Maybe Maximum Bob is coming true on the G8 line of RWD products...

EDIT: And that doesn't answer how the Buick/Caddy zetas can be cancelled when the UAW agreement includes them.

Camino, I surmise that they can get around that by building the Buick and Caddy large FWD models side by side @ the same plant... on a different platform that I hope to god is not Epsilon II.

Edited January 3, 200818 yr by vonVeezelsnider

Camo'ed wagon must = G8 wagon (a man can dream, can't he?!?)

The all-black Holden Maloo (Ute) on there reminds me of the original '91 GMC Syclone

I just got the following Automotive News ALERT: GM cancels V-8 program for luxury cars

I just got the following Automotive News ALERT: GM cancels V-8 program for luxury cars

F*$k!

Shopping List:

1997-1999 Deville

Roadmaster LT1

You know, the UAW Agreement also lists a large Chevrolet sedan to be made at Fairfax that's not the Malibu, is it possible that this is the large FWD Caprice (since it can't be called Impala outside of Oshawa) without listing a specific platform? Is it also possible that Oshawa may be closed?

Edited January 3, 200818 yr by vonVeezelsnider

The morons are taking over.

Lutz is a hostage!

Since I only get the e-mail alerts and not the entire story, here's what the alert says:

GM cancels V-8 program for luxury cars

Richard Truett and Jamie LaReau

DETROIT -- General Motors has canceled plans to build a new advanced double overhead-cam V-8 for its luxury cars.

The move means the future for Cadillac’s V-8 car engines is unclear.

In January 2007, GM said it would invest $300 million in its Tonawanda, N.Y., engine plant for the new V-8 engine, which was scheduled to start production in 2009 and be used in luxury cars.

GM Powertrain spokesman Tom Read said Thursday that the project is dead. That engine likely would have replaced Cadillac’s long-running Northstar V-8, which is scheduled to end production in 2010.

Cadillac could switch to high-powered V-6s in its cars, except for the Corvette-based XLR.

The new direct-injected V-6 in the 2008 CTS develops 304 hp, while the current Northstar V-8 makes 275 hp in the 2008 ...

Mods - I hope it's okay to post that, otherwise I will delete this post.

You know I was really hoping for Cadillac to continue to have a unique to brand powertrain on its upper models...

Wagoner needs to stop this nonsense.

So the three will still exist in FWD or no? I'm most concerned about the Lucerne.

Ok...so those 3 are going to stay FWD Avis models? Boooring.

Edited January 3, 200818 yr by moltar

Camaro is now under major threat.

Camaro is now under major threat.

I don't think so. They promised us at least that one. It's being assembled on a new line in Oshawa specifically designed to be flexible enough to build both FWD and RWD, from different platforms, at the same time. That being seen, they can justify a lower volume Camaro along with (maybe) the G8 family and a mid to high volume Chevy FWDer such as an Impala

Edited January 3, 200818 yr by vonVeezelsnider

I don't think so. They promised us at least that one. It's being assembled on a new line in Oshawa specifically designed to be flexible enough to build both FWD and RWD, from different platforms, at the same time. That being seen, they can justify a lower volume Camaro along with (maybe) the G8 family and a mid to high volume Chevy FWDer such as an Impala

Without companion models on zeta, the new Camaro is doomed to a short life.

Without companion models on zeta, the new Camaro is doomed to a short life.

That is true.

Without companion models on zeta, the new Camaro is doomed to a short life.

The only niche models (dont kid yourself, thats what the Camaro is) to some out in the last decade that weren't doomed for a short life were the New Beetle and PT Cruiser, both of which had the advantage of being attainable, practical cars wrapped in unique sheet metal.

Camaro is now under major threat.

No it's not.

Heh calm down now....you aren't thinking rationally.

No it's not.

Heh calm down now....you aren't thinking rationally.

Sure I am.

We have always known that the business case for Camaro was dependent on other zetas shouldering some of the costs. Without them, Camaro becomes a short-term product.

And yes, I'm royally pissed about this.

in the past few spyshots, there has been mention of changes/ camo on the C Pillar... i could be wrong, but is it possible they may have integrated a hatch?

in the past few spyshots, there has been mention of changes/ camo on the C Pillar... i could be wrong, but is it possible they may have integrated a hatch?

Nope.