I hope this is not production. What is Honda doing?

the Ridgeline being already of a higher quality than either Acadia or Outlook. Enclave is a harder picture to draw, there will be some elements that are of the same quality/solid feel, but the Enclave mostly is dressed up and that's what makes it appeal. Acadia and Outlook are good looking, but the quality doesn't compare, in some ways even to the current Pilot. As is the case with all the newly released GMs, the materials have improved, and are on a par with most out there, but the leaders, as in Honda/Audi/VW/BMW/Infiniti/etc, are still the leaders.

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Oh wait, you're serious

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Oh wait, you're serious

Actually, he's right on the ball... don't worry, he's not writing anti-GM literature, nor is he insulting them.

I hope this is not production. What is Honda doing?

Of course not lol.

Are you kidding? The Lambdas are all much better inside than the Pilot or Ridgeline. I sat in a Pilot and wondered why so many people bought such a pile. Then I realized it had a big H on the front and back.

If you go into any car looking for things wrong or negative about it, you will undoubtedly come away with that impression. I'm not arguing that the Pilot has a nice interior or that the Lambdas do not.

I believe the correct order of events is that you first saw the big H on the front, and then sat in the Pilot and wondered why so many people bought such a pile. :AH-HA_wink:

Edited January 16, 200817 yr by siegen

Which is the same as the CR-V, Odyssey, and Element. Why does it need a column shifter?

A better question is, if its going to have a center console, why does it need a shifter on the column or the dash. They're acceptable in minivans... This isn't a minivan. Dash mounted shifters are retarded in all other applications. It's not an ergonomic design from my experience. It has an unnatural feeling. That, and to be honest... It looks like $h!.

I hope this is not production. What is Honda doing?

Of course not lol.

Uh...actually it's about 90% production on the outside.

A better question is, if its going to have a center console, why does it need a shifter on the column or the dash. They're acceptable in minivans... This isn't a minivan. Dash mounted shifters are retarded in all other applications. It's not an ergonomic design from my experience. It has an unnatural feeling. That, and to be honest... It looks like $h!.

what he said