September 10, 200817 yr Hmmm... well, it's not bad looking, but with it's bulging fenders and uptick in the quarter glass, it reminds me of the Love Child of an HHR and a Traverse. I really hope this is an addition to the line, and not a replacement for the adorable little HHR.
September 10, 200817 yr question for griffon: is this the upsized Groove for our shores, you mentioned a little while back? you mentioned that would be Gamma... this looks like a great fit for a ~$20k and up market. It will never translate this well to production, I would assume. Edited September 10, 200817 yr by turbo200
October 7, 200817 yr No, this is not the upsized Groove. The Orlando is based on the lwb version of the Global Compact Car, towards the high end of the C-segment, and has 7 seats. If anything it will be bigger than its closest rivals sold in the US, the Mazda5 and Rondo. The upsized Groove will be much smaller and have only 5 seats. It should be something like the upcoming, 2nd gen Nissan Cube Cubic, or the original Scion xB (Toyota bB)—a taller, boxier, more van-like lwb derivation of the B-segment Global Small Car architecture. Opel's Meriva, meanwhile, has grown up a lot and will be in between the two in size—similar to the 1st gen Renault Scenic, PT Cruiser and the new C-segment Scion Xb (Corolla Rumion); i.e. a 5-seat C-MPV. The Meriva will technically be Gamma, but not necessarily the same architecture as the Groove and Aveo. The future Gamma-based crossovers will probably share the new Meriva's longer wheelbase, but with longer front and rear overhangs and a more conventional small-SUV profile.
October 23, 200817 yr I remember many on C&G were saying the same thing "copy of PT, will flop". Now suddenly they jumped on bandwagon.
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