For the car you drive the most (your primary vehicle), which automaker does it belong to? I don't think we've had an actual poll of this before, but I was kinda interested to see how many members of C&G actually drive GM cars and trucks.

At this time 3 Oldsmobiles with a combined milage of 631,000 miles, licenced, insured and drivin. One Dodge Dakota at 134,000 miles, that only see necessary use as a PU is far more expensive that a car.

I can't answer this right now... I'm in the middle of replacing the GA, but I can garantee you it probably won't be anything from GM. Or American for that matter...

BMW! Only the ultimate driving machine of course :AH-HA_wink:

Edited November 17, 200520 yr by Nick

I've dabbled in other makes, but GM is my home.

Love my Roadmonster! :)

I have an Intrigue, though it's currently sitting in the garage at home.

Who would have thought so many people on a GM message board would drive GM?  :huh:  :AH-HA_wink:

What's wrong with American? What's one reason you can't find a good Berreta, Neon, Escort GT, or Grand Am?

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they never made good berretas, neons, escort gt's or grand ams.

(you totally walked right into that one.)

That's entirely debatable.

(You totaly walk right into that one.)

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mine's funnier.

(you are in a twisty maze of passages, all alike.)

I can't answer this right now... I'm in the middle of replacing the GA, but I can garantee you it probably won't be anything from GM. Or American for that matter...

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Then why all the crap about Pontiac attached to your posts?

I used to be like that, American cars were junk and GM was the company of the antichrist. My dad felt the same way and owned everything from Renault to Mercedes Benz to Toyota and Datsun (OK Nissan). But he thought about his experiences with the 18 or so new cars he had owned starting with a 1936 Ford coupe up to 75 Celica GT he got as a second car and he realized the only difference between the ownership experience of an import and an American car was the imports cost five times as much to repair. He stopped with the imports bought a Caddy and stayed with Caddy's till he died. I was a hardheaded kid and continued to live by the rice burner is better rule through a new 80 Toyota Corrola an 84 CRX 1.5 an 86 CRX si then I re-gained use of my brain and got a new 92 Z24. I sold that and have had Z28's ever since and you know what? I found that the only difference between the ownership experience of an import and an American car was the imports cost five times as much to repair.
:Toyota:

Edited November 18, 200520 yr by SODDOFFBALDRICKZ28

Who would have thought so many people on a GM message board would drive GM?  :huh:  :AH-HA_wink:

What's wrong with American? What's one reason you can't find a good Berreta, Neon, Escort GT, or Grand Am?

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Because I've already explained it so many times... I love Pontiac Grand Ams, but damnit, I can't afford to fix anything that may break. I can't now and that's why I'm selling it. If I had the time and money... I might've kept it and got another GA. But I can't. I'm 16 and have school and no job. I need a reliable car to transport me to and from work before I can actually get a job. I can't have another GA for all those reasons...

As for others, you're kidding, right? I'd never own any of those even if I could afford to...

Then why all the crap about Pontiac attached to your posts?

I used to be like that,  American cars were junk and GM was the company of the antichrist.  My dad felt the same way and owned everything from Renault to Mercedes Benz to Toyota and Datsun (OK Nissan).  But he thought about his experiences with the 18 or so new cars he had owned starting with a 1936 Ford coupe up to 75 Celeca GT he got as a second car and he realized the only difference between the ownership experience of an import and an American car was the imports cost five times as much to repair.  He stopped with the imports bought a Caddy and stayed with Caddy's till he died.  I was a hardheaded kid and continued to live by the rice burner is better rule through a new 80 Toyota Corrola an 84 CRX 1.5 an 86 CRX si then I re-gained use of my brain and got a new 92 Z24.  I sold that and have had Z28's ever since and you know what? I found  that the only difference between the ownership experience of an import and an American car was the imports cost five times as much to repair.
:Toyota:

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Okay... you're new and don't know my situation, so I can overlook yet another annoying post.

Basically... what I said to WMJ. For the full story... you can see the threads named "GA Problems..." "Well... As With Flybrian..." both started by me as well as "No Reverse Lights" started by another. I don't think GM is crap. Well, not total crap anyways. There just aren't many vehicles that appeal to me that are reliable. The ones I like and can afford were all unfortunately made when GM's were total crap. That and the one in which my passion lies with (Fieros), my parent's do not allow me to have for the most BS reasons (like thinking it's a "queer car"). I'd one of those over anything regardless of reliability, but I can't. As for the rest of American cars... Well, I will never step foot in any Ford. For personal reasons and such. I just hate Ford (and Toyota) with a passion. As for DCX... the only vehicles that appeal to me were rebadged Mitsubishis.

Anyways, all that stuff is in my sig because I am a huge Pontiac fan. I love just about every Pontiac to death (except the few blatant rebadges, the Aztek, and some "yawn-worthy" ones). Pontiac also happens to be the one thing that's keeping me a GM fan (if that). Without, I don't really have any reason to like GM. Especially now that Lutz is doing away with distinctive styling; inside and out.

Also, I'm a very open-minded person. I buy what I like regardless of where it came from or where the profit goes. I really don't care about stuff like that as long as it's a vehicle that fits my wants. Basically... notchback coupes with sporty styling with reasonable performance. Manual transmissions are must. Drive wheels don't matter to me and neither does the plastic quality of the interior, though. Reliability never used to either until I had to deal with my GAGT...

So... anybody else want me to explain myself while I'm at it? <_<

1. GM 2. Toyota 3. ???

My current Household: 100% GM.. for now... Me: Oldsmobile - With 125,000 miles it runs good, but a little sluggish in shifting and some other small issues. I'd like to replace it with a newer Grand Am or Alero coupe with an ecotec + 5 speed for some better gas mileage. Dad: Chevy - He likes the car but misses the full size feel with the Buick Park Ave that he had that my mom currently uses. He's looking into getting a Charger R/T in the next year or two (I wish I could convince hin into a SRT-8 :D ) Mom: 94 Buick (probly will be replaced very soon, with it having 280K+ miles and having startup/running issues. Bro: 92 Buick - Car runs but my bro comes to me complaining about several issues including a hole in his wheel whell that leaks water into the trunk that goes to the rear seat and smells really bad it it's non cleaned up in time. He also says his car get's 12miles to the gallon...

Because I don't brag about it enough, here's my primary car:

1. Daimler-Chrysler (Jeep) 2. BMW 3. Ford

Because I don't brag about it enough, here's my primary car:

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I saw the plane and thought you were being funny.

Then, I saw the Cobalt.

I wanted to vote GM but truth be told for the first time in four years I'm putting most of my miles on a non-GM car. :ph34r: In the past month the brakdown is as follows: '84 Datsun: 1800 miles '79 Coupe Deville: 300 miles '97 STS: 60 miles '68 Camaro: 4 miles (no I'm not kidding) :( Although in the past year (12 months) I put about 13,000 miles on my now gone '87 Fleetwood Brougham, 3,000 miles on the STS & about another 1500 miles on the Camaro, I've been driving the hell out of the Maxima. I bought it with 132,000 and it just turned 144,444 earlier today. It's not so much the practicality and good fuel economy but the fact that it's the only 5-speed (manual trans) that I own.

SWEDISH FORD POWAH! :P GMs my other car.

Primary car would be My-Mommy's-BMW, but my official car, according to the insurance company, is the Volvo 240. If I could vote for more than one, it'd be BMW, VW, Honda, and Volvo.

Toyota (my IS300). Mileage-wise, I drive the Prelude the most because I take it on long trips. The Silverado is driven about once a week.

Me... '98 Camaro Mom... '05 Durango Dad... '05 Grand Prix

In a few weeks when I get around to changing the oil, doing a trany fluid flush and a tune up on the Devil Imean Coupe DeVille I'll be Ooooozin down the street in my Cadillac. (Just like the Springsteen Song)

Edited November 19, 200520 yr by Sixty8panther

3 chevy's 1 olds 1 buick -sometimes 2

That's a sweet lookin' Coupe DeVille. Cadillac used to dip their bumpers in so many layers of different metals, topped with chrome, that they always stayed looking good for years and years after other chrome bumpers rotted away from the inside out.

Check out the trick plate that I found at the Junkyard on a Mercury Garnd Marquis Colony Park. It matches the Firethorn paint perfectly... and this is even sweeter:

















keep going




















still not there....

























wait for it,























YEAH, a White Sheep Wool Steering Wheel cover. I'm trying to cover that ambiguous no man's land between PIMP and Great Grandpappy. When you have a white leatehr interior and white Vinyl roof all can be forgiven.

Ahhh, nice and soft! (Petting Sixty8's fuzzy cylindrical ring thingy.)

Speaking of that, we have a Suzuki Grand Vitara in the shop right now. Our customer got into a rental car while we repair his vehicle. He... stopped by and asked for his steering wheel cover (padded velour) because the rental car wheel was TOO COLD! I had to chuckle, that was a new one and I thought I'd heard it all.

Current ride is the 1996 Z28 Convertible toward the center of my sig. Everything else around it is past vehicles from either my father or myself. My wife and I also own the 2006 G6 and a two-door 1994 Blazer (and the only non-GM the 1963 Stude).

Hey Walt, tell us about some of those if you get a chance... is that a V8 Vega? A late 60's Toronado? A V6 Fiero? I see lots of interesting stuff packed into your sig, man.

What is that at the bottom right corner of the Vega, the dark car with cool rims?

Edited November 20, 200520 yr by ocnblu

Yup, that Vega looks sick!!! And I want to se photos of the Avanti. I have only sen two Avantis in the last 2 years. On my way to deliver the Fleetwood Brougham I saw a '63 Avanti in dark red in a supermarket parking lot, I swung a U-ie to take a picture but I was too late it drove off as I pulled into the parking lot. This is the crazy part... the lady driving it looked like the Lady From PAsadena in the Mopar ads. No joke, she was like 70 and had a fancy hat!

We're a GM/Ford mix, although my dad is primarily a GM guy. My dad's dad is all Ford though...so I've been raised around both. My dad's past vehicles: 1973 Firebird Espirit 1968 Corvette 350 (still owns) 1978 Corvette Silver 25th Anniversary (still owns) 1978 Dodge Warlock 1984 Volkswagen Rabbit diesel 1986 Cutlass Supreme 1988 Mercury Grand Marquis 1992 Oldsmobile Delta 88 (current daily driver) My mom's past vehicles: Early 1970s Ford 1978 Lincoln Continental Mark V 1985 Cutlass Ciera 1988 Dodge Colt 1990 Lumina Euro 1993 Mercury Villager 1996 Windstar 2004 Explorer XLT (current daily driver) My past vehicles: 1990 Lumina Euro (same one my mom drove...I got it after my dad bought the Delta 88) 1994 Lumina Euro (current daily driver) My sister's past vehicles: 1990 Lumina Euro (same car...she got it when it had over 200,000 miles) 1997 Monte Carlo LS (current daily driver)

Jeesh... all this talk of past vehicles... :P Well, I guess I can talk for current and past vehicles too then. So I do still have the Grand Am obviously. As for my parents... Current: 00 Blazer - Mom's ?? F150 - Dad's (supplied by work) Past: 00 Grand Am - Mom's 96 Grand Am - Mom's 89 Regal - Both's 89 Cavalier - Dad's 88 C/K Cheyenne - Dad's 83 Turismo - Mom's 8? Cutlass - Dad's 8? Silverado p/u- Dad's 77 Scottsdale p/u - Dad's 6? Mustang 6? Skylark Those are just the ones that I remember seeing or hearing about.