Does this whole bipartisan push for clunker laws bother anyone else here? I am by no means a conservative, but this just trikes me as a huge waste of government money when we have sooo many other good current uses for the money.

Plus, think of all the cars that will be crushed...

Plenty of B body big cars.

Think of the Caprices that could be fixed up, or the third gen Camaros, or the post 72 El-Camino's, or the decent shape GM trucks that could find a life hauling around a farmer or a mason or something.

Don't like this one bit.

Thoughts?

Chris

The devil will be in the details...

It is a good idear in that it will boost sales of new iron. I am hoping that only a very few dolts let any vehicle approaching cool status be crushed.

I own a clunker and you know what I'd do if someone offered me, oh say $1500 to junk it? I'd take it in a heartbeat. That $1500 could be put towards an Avalanche, which would do everything the Buick does more efficiently.

Examine the specifics of each proposed law, and you may find good reason to hate and oppose it.

Or not.

It depends on how it is written.

No one will ever miss an old K-car or clapped-out Camry or Accord, but I remember a number of magazine features about serious classics that they saved from the crusher...

They help to get $h!ty cars off of the road. People that have maintained their old cars won't spring for the money at all, but someone with a smog-spewing, rustbucket Pontiac 6000 might.

I think it will be less serious classics than the stuff that the young and the working class will want to build.

There are a whole lot of cars that just need to get gone though...

Chris

It is a good idear in that it will boost sales of new iron. I am hoping that only a very few dolts let any vehicle approaching cool status be crushed.

...and if we can see some new iron turn it will help the economy bigtime. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Chris

I think it will be less serious classics than the stuff that the young and the working class will want to build.

There are a whole lot of cars that just need to get gone though...

Chris

I'm saving my share. :AH-HA_wink:

Yes, but cars like your Camino and wagon will be the very cars under 'target"

Chris

Yes, but cars like your Camino and wagon will be the very cars under 'target"

Chris

Maybe.

But they are almost too old for that.

But, lots of 3rd gen F-body cars could go as well as B-bodies and other cool stuff.

There aren't many 3rd gen F-bodies really worth saving.

There aren't many 3rd gen F-bodies really worth saving.

Not true, though there are many that are "crushworthy".

They sold well enough, and are still loved well enough that not too many good ones would be lost.

But some would.

I just wonder if this is the next step in the loss of some of our automotive freedoms.

A lot of things start out "voluntary"

+I wonder if they will include Tacomas in the definition of crushworth clunker?

Chris

I just wonder if this is the next step in the loss of some of our automotive freedoms.

A lot of things start out "voluntary"

+I wonder if they will include Tacomas in the definition of crushworth clunker?

Chris

Any attempt to make this non-voluntary means that I will arm myself.

No joke.

EDIT: On the Tacoma - Toyota certainly hopes so!

Edited June 10, 200916 yr by Camino LS6

OMG I hope some dimbulb Toyota driver doesn't get TWO vouchers when his Tacoma falls in half on the dealer's lot! No fair!

You have to have the car insured for at least a year before you trade it in, 1984 and newer, and the new one, which has to be a new car, has to get at least 10mpg better than the one before it. People aren't going to be dragging Camaros out of fields on Friday and dragging them to the dealer Saturday. The only way I see someone using this program is if you have say, a parent who inherited the car a child drove through college and they want to buy a new one for themselves. People like me who are driving 20+ year old cars they assembled from spare parts, people who have no money for a new car or people who are going to get more than $3,500 on their trade in are never going to use this program, so I would think most cool cars would be pretty safe.

We will have to watch the small print.

Unless the proposed law forces people to buy new cars, we don't need to get our panties in a bunch over it. Odds are that people who own cars worth saving and take care of them won't turn them in for a new Aveo.

Unless the proposed law forces people to buy new cars, we don't need to get our panties in a bunch over it. Odds are that people who own cars worth saving and take care of them won't turn them in for a new Aveo.

I wouldn't be quite so sure about that.

You have to have the car insured for at least a year before you trade it in, the only cars you can trade in have to be 1984 and newer, the new car has to be a new one and not a used one and has to get at least 10mpg better than the one before it. People aren't going to be dragging Camaros out of fields on Friday and dragging them to the dealer Saturday. The only way I see someone using this program is if you have say, a parent who inherited the car a child drove through college and they want to buy a new one for themselves. People like me who are driving 20+ year old cars they assembled from spare parts, people who have no money for a new car or people who are going to get more than $3,500 on their trade in are never going to use this program, so I would think most cool cars would be pretty safe.

AT least we hope, anyways...

Unless the proposed law forces people to buy new cars, we don't need to get our panties in a bunch over it. Odds are that people who own cars worth saving and take care of them won't turn them in for a new Aveo.

:rotflmao:

You're joking, right?

I know this Cutlass...........

I know this Cutlass...........