...if Saturn, Hummer, and Saab had been dumped early in this decade?

Not much, unless Wagoner went with them.

Pontiac would probably still be around.

Not much, unless Wagoner went with them.

Agreed.

Not much, unless Wagoner went with them.

Well if there were no Wagoner, there would be no Bob Lutz either.

It would have helped. GM slowly starteed loosing their focus in with the 1973 model year lineup. It's been 36 years of decline ever since, when you think about it. Halting the decline in a big way at any one point or in a myriad of small ways all along would have saved them.

Alas, for some reason it wasn't worth turning the ship around for whatever odd reason.

Had they ever at any one point decided to just be GM and not tried to be everything to everybody..we'd be okay.

Or, had they decided that they were a car company run by people passionate about cars...we'd be okay.

Chris

Well if there were no Wagoner, there would be no Bob Lutz either.

I think Bob Lutz came to GM for the challenge of trying to turn it around. Lutz is his own person and his arrival was not 100% because of Wagoner.

I think Bob Lutz came to GM for the challenge of trying to turn it around. Lutz is his own person and his arrival was not 100% because of Wagoner.

I believe i read somewhere that Wagoner was directly responsible for bringing Lutz on board.

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I believe i read somewhere that Wagoner was directly responsible for bringing Lutz on board.

Ok, but do you think it would have been impossible for Lutz to end up at GM without Wagoner?

Not much, unless Wagoner went with them.

Going back a bit farther and axing Roger Smith would have been far more effective.

He's the one who blew the cash stash.

But personnel isn't the topic here.