hopefully this will last longer than 3 hours :P You people spend to much of your lives with cars :P (like I should talk) :unsure:

Do you know who made Caddillac and Lincoln?

Edited December 1, 200520 yr by capriceman

I know what it is...

Same guy made Caddy and lincoln.

Same guy made Caddy and lincoln.

[post="50960"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

yeah I dont think many people now that though....


Balthazar, What car dont you know?

man thats the new camo GM uses now thats the new 9-3 turbo thats pic is worht some money! :o :lol: :AH-HA_wink:

Isn't that a "copper cooled" Chevrolet?

That SAAB is crazy looking. It also has Massachusetts plates. Love those rims and mud flaps. B) BTW: the story of Henry Leyland is an amazing one... had he not been a Quaker and therefore Pacifist he probably never would have lived long enough to found either company since he probably would have been killed in battle durring the Civil War. He was such an amazing man, right up there wiht Mitchel & Earl.

Balthazar, What car dont you know?

I am rather well versed in domestic automotive history, but not so well in vehicles never imported here. Frankly, most foreign makes in general fail to interest me.

Henry Leyland... had he not been a Quaker and therefore Pacifist he probably never would have lived long enough to found either company since he probably would have been killed in battle durring the Civil War. He was such an amazing man, right up there wiht Mitchel & Earl.

Leyland was too young for the Civil War (b; 1843), and it's interesting to note Lincoln was formed in order to build aircraft engines for WWI. That said, he indeed was a great man, & industrial pioneer. I am searching for a biography of his life- not sure one exists.

Leyland was too young for the Civil War (b; 1843), and it's interesting to note Lincoln was formed in order to build aircraft engines for WWI. That said, he indeed was a great man, & industrial pioneer. I am searching for a biography of his life- not sure one exists.

Henry Leland (no "y" in the name) would have been 17-18 at the start of the Civic War...plenty old enough to fight in the war. And I do know there are biographies of him.

Henry Ford was one of the founders of the company that would become Cadillac (ever notice how similar the Ford Model A and the Cadillac Model A look?). So Henry Ford and Henry Leland were key in creating BOTH Cadillac and Lincoln.

Balthazar: You know automotive history...but are you in the Society of Automotive Historians?

Isn't that a "copper cooled" Chevrolet?

[post="51004"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

nope!

And its past 3 hours now so balt you can anwser now

Henry Leland (no "y" in the name) would have been 17-18 at the start of the Civic War...plenty old enough to fight in the war. And I do know there are biographies of him.
Henry Ford was one of the founders of the company that would become Cadillac (ever notice how similar the Ford Model A and the Cadillac Model A look?). So Henry Ford and Henry Leland were key in creating BOTH Cadillac and Lincoln.
Balthazar: You know automotive history...but are you in the Society of Automotive Historians?

whoops- math mistake: I was looking at 1843 and thinking 12 years to '65 instead of the correct 22.

I had thought HML created Lincoln as an independant company and then sold it to Ford. What early Ford involvment I am overlooking?

In fact I am considering SAH membership.

whoops- math mistake: I was looking at 1843 and thinking 12 years to '65 instead of the correct 22.

I had thought HML created Lincoln as an independant company and then sold it to Ford. What early Ford involvment I am overlooking?

In fact I am considering SAH membership.

It was the Civil War....even 12 year olds could have fought.

Lincoln was created by Leland and Ford saved it from bankruptcy. On the other hand, the Henry Ford Company was taken over by Leland when Ford left and it became....Cadillac.

You should more than "consider" SAH. I've been a member for quite a while. And a very active one at that.

Edited December 2, 200520 yr by Hudson

Well, I've read in some book of mine, I own it and wil have to go searching for it, that Leland (no Y :P ) worked for Colt Firearms because he wanted to make a positive contribution towards the cause of the Norht but could not fight since he was a Quaker and therefore Pacifist.

So the civil war & his Quaker beliefs directly lead him down the road to work for Colt Firearms... there he learned the ememse practicality and future promisse of mass production and parts interchangability.

The rest is history. :)


http://home.iag.net/~middlebr/dewar.html

>>"It was the Civil War....even 12 year olds could have fought."<<
HM Leland actually tried to enlist in the Union Army in 1861, but was rejected due to..... his age.

>>"Lincoln was created by Leland and Ford saved it from bankruptcy."<<
Right; so Ford actually did not have a hand in creating Lincoln, tho he did in preserving it (a few years later IIRC).

Isn't that a "copper cooled" Chevrolet?

nope!

Uh-oh...... :(

Edited December 2, 200520 yr by balthazar

Its Obviously a "copper cooled" somthing but not a Chevy. But In the GM Family.

Cadillac?

Cadillac?

[post="52156"][/post]

yep a 1912 Caddy Model 30 Copper cooled 4 cylinder tourer

Ahh, OK. The copper-cooled Chevy was air-cooled (the cylinders were finned), this Cadillac merely has copper-jacketed cylinders; it is still water-cooled. Therefore using the term 'copper-cooled' is a misnomer. Of course, I still didn't know it. <_<

Your right but in the picture you can see a Radiator.