December 24, 200520 yr Here is what is on the web site for the LA Auto show Pontiac Solstice GXP The sleek new two-seater gets more power with the debut of the Solstice GXP, which features GM’s all-new Ecotec 2.0-liter turbo, the most powerful production engine in the Ecotec family. This turbo with direct injection kicks a V-6’s worth of power out of a four-cylinder engine, an estimated 260 horsepower and 260 lb.-ft. of torque. It will arrive in dealerships this summer. This is what is posted so it looks lime we will see the small jump in HP like we see in most of GM's new intro's.
December 24, 200520 yr I'm wondering if we're going to see this engine in any of the Deltas. 260hp going through the front wheels would lead to hella torque steer.
December 24, 200520 yr I'm wondering if we're going to see this engine in any of the Deltas. 260hp going through the front wheels would lead to hella torque steer. [post="63125"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] We've already had this much and more going to front wheels. The Import tuners have FWD cars doing 8-9-10 second 1/4 miles. I saw a short bit today from a team currently track tuning a Cobalt SS SC down at Daytona for the Grand AM series. THey have high praise for the behavior of the FWD Cobalt. This turbo engine would really bring them into the game as engines must remain stock. Torque steer is just a wildcard the RWD (only) people throw on the table. TO me it would be like a FWD (only) person making large of fishtailing in a RWD. Ya gotta admit 130 #'s per litre is pretty darn impressive.
December 25, 200520 yr How much horsepower does the Miata/MX-5 Mazdaspeed have? This is very hot and very much needed for GM. Nice work.
December 25, 200520 yr Wow, 260 lb-ft as well? If they make a 3door version it will be a fantastic combination.
December 25, 200520 yr Ya gotta admit 130 #'s per litre is pretty darn impressive. [post="63135"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] That is is, and I know from experience that the EcoTec is a very efficient engine, the smaller displacement version should be even better when you're not on the turbo. And the torque steer thing, its just a pain in the ass. Wow, 260 lb-ft as well? If they make a 3door version it will be a fantastic combination. [post="63190"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] :withstupid:
December 25, 200520 yr Wow... that is going to be so hot! I wonder what other kinds of little treats the GXP will get :) Not that this isn't the best treat of all!
December 25, 200520 yr Author Torque steer is much improved over past FWD high HP applications. MY 260 HP GP is not bad at all as is the new 305 hp GP V8. Would I rather still have RWD, Yes! But The FWD is not going to put you in the ditch any more.
December 25, 200520 yr I have always wondered if the torque steer issue came from experience with the cheaper GM's or other brands. The H, C & W bodies I have drivin this really isnt an issue. Our A body wagon is another story, not a problem but much more in your face. The problem with putting this engine over to say the Cobalt would be expensive transmission and driveshaft upgrades. Which brings me to the question - how much is this GXP going to cost ? ? ? ? ? It would be nice if they could get it out at a resonable price but they will not.
December 25, 200520 yr For pricing it probably depends on what options it has standard. If it's just a base Solstice with the better engine, then it'll probably be close to $25k like Josh said, but if they put other goodies on it too it will probably be more like $27-28k. The Sky Red Line will probably be about $29-30k I would guess since it will only have a couple options. The Solstice GXP could be different and have lots of options available.
December 26, 200520 yr Wow... that's awesome! I just hope there will be a coupe version with a fixed roof like the concept. Also, my Grand Am had very little torque steer... of couse it only had 150hp, but still... :lol: :D
December 27, 200520 yr Wow... that's awesome! I just hope there will be a coupe version with a fixed roof like the concept. Also, my Grand Am had very little torque steer... of couse it only had 150hp, but still... :lol: :D [post="63425"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] My Grand Am seems exactly opposite from yours. My Grand Am had alot of torque steer when it downshifted at about 30 mph.
December 27, 200520 yr Well... you said that your's was pretty torquey while mine always felt torqueless... so, it makes sense. :P That is strange, though... that update for 96 seems like it made it into a different car...
December 27, 200520 yr Torque steer is much improved over past FWD high HP applications. MY 260 HP GP is not bad at all as is the new 305 hp GP V8. Would I rather still have RWD, Yes! But The FWD is not going to put you in the ditch any more. [post="63246"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] From many articles I've read, GM has done marvels with virtually eliminating torque steer even under heavy power... I recall reading the Impala SS with 303hp, showed little torque steer.
December 27, 200520 yr Torque steer ain't that hard to engineer out... [post="63591"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] Especially on a RWD car like the Solstice :AH-HA_wink:
December 27, 200520 yr Author When you kick the rear out in the corner that is Torque steer too but on the good end!!
March 28, 200619 yr FWD has two problems torque steer and something else, I can't remember, do u? [post="113320"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] Center of mass? Weight distribution? But that calls for a mid-engine car to solve...
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