What's the best store-bought airfilter brand, fellas? I'm with Fram, but want some more flow because I think Fram's a paperfilter. And I don't want K&N.

And I don't want K&N.

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Why not?

Everybody says they let through A LOT of dirt. And they really don't add 5 HP or whatever they advertise.

Everybody says they let through A LOT of dirt.

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Humm...Ive heard the opposite. Just dont over oil the filter

Edited August 28, 200519 yr by CD/BP

Humm...Ive heard the opposite. Just dont over oil the filter

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Read this thread; you may suprise yourself. I know I did:

http://pong.server2vh.com/~cheers/forums/i...p?showtopic=376

I read the thread but it doesn't recommend one... Blah.

I read the thread but it doesn't recommend one... Blah.

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Oh, that was more to reply to CD/BP's comment actually.

I know, but before someone says.. Well why don't you just read that! More of a "been there, done that" comment. :)

...want some more flow because I think Fram's a paperfilter. And I don't want K&N.

I don't get this: you don't want Fram because it's paper but you don't want a K&N because it's an oiled filter. I'm trying to think of a 3rd type and am coming up blank....
I can tell you that Fram oil filters are absolute garbage, again revealed by 3rd party extensive testing. They used to be competitive but Fram was bought out & cheapened immediately. Whether that translates to their air filters or not, I don't know.

As far as K&N, it does give you more airflow, but it also dirties the oil a lot faster. That filter is best left for trucks...I had one on my s10..and it worked ok... Pulator (sp) seems to work quite well..

I know, but before someone says.. Well why don't you just read that!

More of a "been there, done that" comment. :)

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I didn't read it till after my post..but I already knew that.. :)

The only thing that makes a car happy is Mobil 1...then the filter doesn't matter..
(as long as it is not Fram..)

I read the thread but it doesn't recommend one... Blah.

In your rush to judgement, did you go back and read the 14 page report @

http://home.usadata.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm

Ifyou read that report and still can't come to a conclusion, then maybe you should find another hobby than working on cars! <_<

For some reason, the above link does not get you back to the test report-- I've tried it 3 times!
Click on the other link from the other thread and that will get you to the test report. (Sorry about that!)
4th time- think I found it! Click on:
http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm

Edited September 3, 200519 yr by rkmdogs

...want some more flow because I think Fram's a paperfilter. And I don't want K&N.

I don't get this: you don't want Fram because it's paper but you don't want a K&N because it's an oiled filter. I'm trying to think of a 3rd type and am coming up blank....
I can tell you that Fram oil filters are absolute garbage, again revealed by 3rd party extensive testing. They used to be competitive but Fram was bought out & cheapened immediately. Whether that translates to their air filters or not, I don't know.
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Well there are two other air filter types --- the old style oil-bath filters, like the ones used on cars in the 50's & 60's, and still on some trucks.
The other is the tri-phase type that are used on off-road equipment and some tractors.

This inquirer needs to do a lot more reading---- about the truth in air filters, and why any choice is a compromise, based on his usage.

I didn't read it till after my post..but I already knew that.. :)

The only thing that makes a car happy is Mobil 1...then the filter doesn't matter..
(as long as it is not Fram..)

Dave, what a dangerous comment!

Besides preventing rocks from getting into your intake system, the choice of an air filter will determine how efficiently your engine will run, and how long it will last,
since it is basically an air pump, and whatever you suck in does wear on the internals!

Your comment about Mobil 1 is also B/S. Was your engine clearanced to run with
a synthetic? Most engines were not, and due to the lower viscosity of most
synthetics, insufficient pressure at high engine temps can cause internal scuffing!
Yes, synthetics work good, if the engine has the proper clearances, and has not been prematurely worn by using air filters that don't trap small dirt particles!
You sow what you reap! :blink: