December 22, 200916 yr Interactive Review: 2010 GMC Terrain FWD SLE-2 Stock photo used I just received a GMC Terrain I4 FWD SLE-2 to evaluate. We're going to do something a little different this time. I'm still going to write the standard review, but I will post it during the evaluation period. This will give you guys the chance to ask questions and ask for photographs of specific areas of the vehicle. So fire away so I can take notes on any questions you have about the vehicle. You have till Monday, December 28th to get your questions in before I turn in the vehicle.
December 22, 200916 yr Looking forward to this one. I've seen almost as many Terrain's around here as I've seen Equinox's.
December 22, 200916 yr I would really like to see some night time interior shots as others have said. Also, this is kind of weird but if you could get a video of the turn-signal operation/brakes or the exterior light clusters in general I would really appreciate it. Can't wait to see what you think of the I-4 especially the fuel mileage since I keep hearing the Equinox's fuel mileage isn't anywhere near the EPA's claim...
December 22, 200916 yr Author Well, in the 20 miles I've been lead footing it around town in 50/50 ECO Mode/Not Eco-Mode, I'm getting 22 city. Also, I don't think anyone will have to be worried about the I4 in the Buick Lacrosse. It's no speed demon, but it's got spunk.
December 22, 200916 yr Other than likely acceleration differences between the V6 and 4, does it drive sufficiently differently from the Equinox that was recently tested?
December 22, 200916 yr Author Other than likely acceleration differences between the V6 and 4, does it drive sufficiently differently from the Equinox that was recently tested? Steering is noticeably different particularly at low speeds. Much lighter steering in parking maneuvers, at city speeds and above steering feels slightly sportier, faster to respond.
December 22, 200916 yr Author Since the belt line is so high is the visibility any worse than the Equinox? I don't know that the belt line is any different than the Equinox. Once you're inside, visibility seems the same.
December 22, 200916 yr Also, I don't think anyone will have to be worried about the I4 in the Buick Lacrosse. It's no speed demon, but it's got spunk. Out of curiosity (and laziness, LOL) How do vehicle weights compare between the Terrain and the LaCrosse?
December 22, 200916 yr Author Terrain I4 FWD 3867 Equinox V6 FWD 3928 LaCrosse V6 FWD 3929 So again, no the I4 Lacrosse isn't going to be a speed demon, but it'll still feel decent around town.
December 22, 200916 yr Well, in the 20 miles I've been lead footing it around town in 50/50 ECO Mode/Not Eco-Mode, I'm getting 22 city. Also, I don't think anyone will have to be worried about the I4 in the Buick Lacrosse. It's no speed demon, but it's got spunk. I'd be curious to know the engine rpm at 70 mph in 6th
December 23, 200916 yr Can you take & post some pics with the 2nd row seats folded? Like to see if they fold flat.
December 23, 200916 yr Author Can you take & post some pics with the 2nd row seats folded? Like to see if they fold flat. They are identical to the Chevrolet Equinox. They do not fold completely level, but they are flat. These are from the Equinox LTZ
December 23, 200916 yr Author Any product mix info? V6 vs. I4 FWD vs. AWD I can ask this of my contact at GM. Just want Terrain or 'Nox too?
December 23, 200916 yr My only suggestion would be some good driveline pictures, so we can see how hard to showhorn a ls3 will be. Normal car rags barely take a photo of the top of the engine with the cover on.
December 23, 200916 yr How are the headlights for night driving? They look like they'd be awesome, but I've been fooled before.
December 23, 200916 yr Author My only suggestion would be some good driveline pictures, so we can see how hard to showhorn a ls3 will be. Normal car rags barely take a photo of the top of the engine with the cover on. The 3.6 fit in the Vue... so the 5.3 should fit.
December 23, 200916 yr Author How are the headlights for night driving? They look like they'd be awesome, but I've been fooled before. They seem great. Leagues better than my CR-V daily driver. The fogs seem especially bright.
December 23, 200916 yr They seem great. Leagues better than my CR-V daily driver. The fogs seem especially bright. That's awesome -- I love having lots of light in front of a vehicle.
December 23, 200916 yr Author That's awesome -- I love having lots of light in front of a vehicle. I'll see if I can to a headlight comparison shot with the 2004 CR-V
December 23, 200916 yr Author I would really like to see some night time interior shots as others have said. Also, this is kind of weird but if you could get a video of the turn-signal operation/brakes or the exterior light clusters in general I would really appreciate it. Can't wait to see what you think of the I-4 especially the fuel mileage since I keep hearing the Equinox's fuel mileage isn't anywhere near the EPA's claim... Aren't Interactive Reviews great?! This what you were looking for? <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
December 23, 200916 yr How is the response time on the I4, acceleration, breaking, and steering? Also how is the pioneer audio and reverse camera?
December 23, 200916 yr Author How is the response time on the I4, acceleration, breaking, and steering? Also how is the pioneer audio and reverse camera? The I4 will break the front tires loose from a dead stop. Throttle tip in is great. It feels rather spunky around town. If AWD wasn't an absolute requirement for me, I could be perfectly happy with the I4 model. The sound is very sedate under normal conditions, but put your foot in it and you'll get an almost V6 like growl. The steering is very light at parking speeds and much tighter above that. I want to go further with the evaluation before I comment more on that. Braking is very firm. The reverse camera is great. The picture shows up on the left side of the center rear view mirror allowing you to look at either the screen or the mirror with just a very minor shift of your gaze. Pioneer audio...I'll get back to you on.
December 23, 200916 yr Terrain I4 FWD 3867Equinox V6 FWD 3928 LaCrosse V6 FWD 3929 So again, no the I4 Lacrosse isn't going to be a speed demon, but it'll still feel decent around town. That's good to read. Gearing is very important too, and if GM has struck a good balance between economy and performance then great!
December 23, 200916 yr Aren't Interactive Reviews great?! This what you were looking for? <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Excellent! Any night shots of the gauge cluster/HVAC controls?
December 23, 200916 yr I got the window sticker up Can't view the sticker for some odd reason, I get "An Error Occurred Sorry, an error occurred. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don't know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information. [#10745] Sorry, but you do not have permission to use this feature. If you are not logged in, you may do so using the form below if available"
December 23, 200916 yr Author Can't view the sticker for some odd reason, I get "An Error Occurred Sorry, an error occurred. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don't know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information. [#10745] Sorry, but you do not have permission to use this feature. If you are not logged in, you may do so using the form below if available" Woops, sorry I hadn't made the album public.
December 23, 200916 yr Silly question: What size are the tires? Do you know if you can downsize the rims to put winter steelies on it? (Is there clearance between the alloys and the calipers?)
December 23, 200916 yr How are the controls - steering, brakes, and throttle? What sbout the transmission?
December 23, 200916 yr Author I'd be curious to know the engine rpm at 70 mph in 6th 2050rpm in Eco mode. I didn't get long enough to try it not in eco mode to see if there was any difference, though I doubt there would be.
December 23, 200916 yr I can ask this of my contact at GM. Just want Terrain or 'Nox too? Both would be good, I think. A more complete picture of things.
December 24, 200916 yr I would like to know how much of a difference "loading it down for a trip" makes on fuel economy and driveability. Esp. through someplace like hilly PA...as in off of the turnpike. Also, would like to know if there are any smoothness issues with cold weather start up. Chris
December 24, 200916 yr what is its purpose marketing wise [in your opinion]? does it do enough to differentiate from equinox? will it draw different buyers? is it handsome? could it have been better conceptualized to offer something more tangible over equinox? is it worth the effort? is their significant attention to detail to truly capitalize on its greater size and go after true midsize utes? is it worth 39k on the high end considering the engineering and details that are present in your model? who's it going to appeal to? all the questions the product imagers behind the product should have answers for, but don't have enough of the right answers. i like terrain, but not enough to give it the full recommendation as a supplementary product to equinox. GM needed to go more upscale over equinox. no issue with powertrain, but inner and exterior detailing should have been a step up from the perfectly-excellent-for-mainstream equinox. i also like the terrain's more hummer-like man-appeal, but think it could have gone in a few better directions in a couple of areas, which is exactly how i feel about equinox. i think both are class leading, and both are breakthrough product, and both are the best GM has released for a long time, but there are one or two areas [design issues] on each where it stops just short of earth-shattering, given how great they are in most areas.
December 24, 200916 yr Author I would like to know how much of a difference "loading it down for a trip" makes on fuel economy and driveability. Esp. through someplace like hilly PA...as in off of the turnpike. Also, would like to know if there are any smoothness issues with cold weather start up. Chris Unfortunately, I don't have any long trips planned this time around. I can tell you that I had 4 bundles of wood and 6 12"x12"x3" paving stones in the back and there was no difference. we've been in the high 20s / low 30s since I've had it. Not really cold enough to have any issues. Idle is one of the few places you can feel that it is a 4 cylinder just from the little bit of vibration through the steering wheel...but it's nothing compared to the CR-V. I'm going to do a more detailed writeup of the Eco-Mode, but one of the things Eco-Mode does is drop the idle by 100rpm.
December 24, 200916 yr Author what is its purpose marketing wise [in your opinion]? does it do enough to differentiate from equinox? will it draw different buyers? is it handsome? could it have been better conceptualized to offer something more tangible over equinox? is it worth the effort? The Equinox is clearly aimed at the CR-V and RAV-4. It's a bit too large to be directly compared with the Escape. The Terrain is the same exact size as the 'Nox but aimed at people who consider the CR-V looks to be too wussy. From the outside, the Terrain looks bigger but isn't. The Terrain is for the guy who really wanted an H3 but couldn't convince his wife to go for it. It does look more upscale than the Equinox even though the SLE-2 I'm driving is $5k less than the LTZ I had. It's worth it to have both because the designs seem to be so polarizing. is their significant attention to detail to truly capitalize on its greater size and go after true midsize utes? is it worth 39k on the high end considering the engineering and details that are present in your model? who's it going to appeal to? all the questions the product imagers behind the product should have answers for, but don't have enough of the right answers. i like terrain, but not enough to give it the full recommendation as a supplementary product to equinox. GM needed to go more upscale over equinox. no issue with powertrain, but inner and exterior detailing should have been a step up from the perfectly-excellent-for-mainstream equinox. i also like the terrain's more hummer-like man-appeal, but think it could have gone in a few better directions in a couple of areas, which is exactly how i feel about equinox. i think both are class leading, and both are breakthrough product, and both are the best GM has released for a long time, but there are one or two areas [design issues] on each where it stops just short of earth-shattering, given how great they are in most areas. Well on the Build-Your-Own site I could only get it to up to $38,180 including destination charge. Not having a loaded model, I can't say for certain that I think it's worth that much. However, I will say that the $31k Equinox I just had felt every bit worth the money and it wasn't even AWD, nor did it have a full NAV or infotainment system or the big wheels. It's just that solid of a vehicle with an interior to match. The interior of the Terrain is slightly more upscale in that it has faux leather stitched dash and more chrome. The cloth seats (I haven't inspected cloth seats in an Equinox) are unlike anything I've seen before in a vehicle.
December 24, 200916 yr Unfortunately, I don't have any long trips planned this time around. I can tell you that I had 4 bundles of wood and 6 12"x12"x3" paving stones in the back and there was no difference. we've been in the high 20s / low 30s since I've had it. Not really cold enough to have any issues. Idle is one of the few places you can feel that it is a 4 cylinder just from the little bit of vibration through the steering wheel...but it's nothing compared to the CR-V. I'm going to do a more detailed writeup of the Eco-Mode, but one of the things Eco-Mode does is drop the idle by 100rpm. Good enough to answer my question...thanks! Chris
December 24, 200916 yr thanks for the answers. i wasn't trying to be overly complicated with you; i like that terrain exists, and I think it does draw in different people. I just hope in the future GM understands how to properly market their vehicles as different product....through the use of quality differentiation.
December 25, 200916 yr The I4 will break the front tires loose from a dead stop. Throttle tip in is great. It feels rather spunky around town. If AWD wasn't an absolute requirement for me, I could be perfectly happy with the I4 model. The sound is very sedate under normal conditions, but put your foot in it and you'll get an almost V6 like growl. The steering is very light at parking speeds and much tighter above that. I want to go further with the evaluation before I comment more on that. Braking is very firm. The reverse camera is great. The picture shows up on the left side of the center rear view mirror allowing you to look at either the screen or the mirror with just a very minor shift of your gaze. Pioneer audio...I'll get back to you on. Awesome, thanks!
December 25, 200916 yr Olds, Having driven both the Terrain and Equinox, is there any reason to buy one over the other? Does one have a better dash layout, fit and finish, seem quieter, handle better, etc? Are they badge engineered or are they actually distinctive enough to require two separate brands?
December 25, 200916 yr Author Olds, Having driven both the Terrain and Equinox, is there any reason to buy one over the other? Does one have a better dash layout, fit and finish, seem quieter, handle better, etc? Are they badge engineered or are they actually distinctive enough to require two separate brands? More standard features, but higher base price, on the Terrain. Interior wise, you get a faux leather stitched dash not available on the Equinox. Other than that, if your eyes prefer blue interior ambient lighting, get the 'Nox. If you prefer red, get the Terrain. Quality wise, they are equals. Most of the difference is in the look of the exterior and really just which of the two you prefer.
December 26, 200916 yr Quality wise, they are equals. Most of the difference is in the look of the exterior and really just which of the two you prefer. now that you express this sentiment, i detect a tone of disappointment. do you now understand more behind what i was saying earlier? it really is a waste to develop two essentially identical product, put one slightly more attractive wrapper on one [up to you to decide which one] and then voila we have two competitors, except they're in the very same segment. Edited December 26, 200916 yr by turbo200
December 26, 200916 yr Thanks for this opportunity. Are you able to identify/notice any of the "active noise cancellation" that is apparently present on these vehicles (Terrain/Equinox). Over on gm-trucks.com they had some of the Terrain officials on earlier in the year for a q and a session. They mentioned that there should be active noise cancelling, which if I recall is a tone or white noise that is put off by the audio system to counterbalance some other offending sound. Any sign of this at all? If so, how does it seem to be working? Thanks again.
December 26, 200916 yr Author now that you express this sentiment, i detect a tone of disappointment. do you now understand more behind what i was saying earlier? it really is a waste to develop two essentially identical product, put one slightly more attractive wrapper on one [up to you to decide which one] and then voila we have two competitors, except they're in the very same segment. No disappointment. Simply stating a fact, though I may have caused some confusion as I was only referring to build quality. The GMC does feel more upmarket because the most visible materials inside are more upmarket, if only in look.
December 26, 200916 yr Author Thanks for this opportunity. Are you able to identify/notice any of the "active noise cancellation" that is apparently present on these vehicles (Terrain/Equinox). Over on gm-trucks.com they had some of the Terrain officials on earlier in the year for a q and a session. They mentioned that there should be active noise cancelling, which if I recall is a tone or white noise that is put off by the audio system to counterbalance some other offending sound. Any sign of this at all? If so, how does it seem to be working? Thanks again. You know, I didn't even know about this till I was reading the vehicle summary provided by GMC the other evening. To be honest, I haven't noticed this system in action at all other than the vehicle is unusually silent for a 4-cylinder vehicle. You can feel some 4-cylinder shudder in the wheel at certain speeds especially when in ECO-mode, but it's certainly not offensive and still less noticeable than the CR-V that is my daily driver. ECO-Mode does the following things: Lowers idle RPM by 100rpm. Transmission upshifts sooner. Transmission downshifts later. Gas pedal sensitivity is reduced (though this is dynamic, if you floor it, you get full power) Torque converter locks up at lower speed. In everyday driving, you mostly don't notice a difference. The only time I really have noticed the ECO system in operation is when I'm climbing a hill around 40mph. The torque converter is locked up at this speed and you can feel the computer purposely lugging the engine a bit. It's so subtle that the non-carbuff would never even notice it.
December 26, 200916 yr In everyday driving, you mostly don't notice a difference. The only time I really have noticed the ECO system in operation is when I'm climbing a hill around 40mph. The torque converter is locked up at this speed and you can feel the computer purposely lugging the engine a bit. It's so subtle that the non-carbuff would never even notice it. that sounds like what my monte does in 4th... locks up @40 but will hold it down to ~33mph, turning just over 1Krpm, if you're not in a hurry and give it more like 1/2 throttle.
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