August 30, 200520 yr I'm crazy about any carmakers ideas for possible manufacture or just as a design study. Some are wonderful and some are downright wacky. American Motors in the 60s: AMX concept: AMC Cavalier concept: American Motors design proposals, probably from the 70s/early 80s:
August 30, 200520 yr I'm with you, Harley... I LOVE that stuff. I could pour over that stuff for hours... and old car ads too...
August 30, 200520 yr Author Totally, Blu....it facinates me what some of these guys come up with. Just love it. 1964 Studebaker Skyview: 1956 Chevrolet Impala:
August 30, 200520 yr The 'what could've been' is usually better than the 'what is'. My dream list is packed with one-offs & concepts.
August 30, 200520 yr Author This was a great Firebird concept, the '78 Type K, not to be confused with K-cars.
August 31, 200520 yr Author Here is the 2005 Citroen C-SportLounge concept. I like the interesting chrome details. Edited August 31, 200520 yr by HarleyEarl
August 31, 200520 yr AMC Cavalier concept: i love that concept, especially how the rear axle is behind the slope of the rear glass drop the front for a nice rake and its hot as shit and muscle to the max looking
August 31, 200520 yr Author That AMC Cavalier is a 60s concept and was way ahead of it's time....with a few updates, it could be very current.....I like how the rear wheels are back of the rear glass as well.
August 31, 200520 yr Maybe its just me, but everything except the Impala ranges from unappealing to grotesque. The proportions of the Cavalier concept are plain lousy. Bring on something hot like this '61 Dodge Flite-Wing:
August 31, 200520 yr If you remember (from the old board), The AMC Cavalier concept had doors and fenders that were interchangeable. Ie. The left rear fender was the same as the right front. The doors were the same. It was a cost reduction. Strange, but not bad looking.
August 31, 200520 yr Author RichW5, I had forgotten about that. Yes those fenders were interchangeable...a novel idea. Here's another AMC proposal: 4-door sedan and wagon Matador:
September 1, 200520 yr Never heard of that Pontiac Farago concept. Those middle two AMC hatchbacks were actually productions vehicles in Venezuela I think dubbed the Lerma.
September 1, 200520 yr Author Never heard of that Pontiac Farago concept. Those middle two AMC hatchbacks were actually productions vehicles in Venezuela I think dubbed the Lerma. [post="7801"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] Interesting about those two AMC hatcbacks being produced in South America. In my reference they are listed as prototypes.
September 2, 200520 yr FlyBrian- I've seen a great quantity of pics of the Flitewing over the years, and tho it has some really cool & innovative features, it also has plenty of stylistic oddness to it, too. Oh; it's still more hip than the AMC Cavalier, but it's no Miss America, either.
September 3, 200520 yr Here's the 1999 Chevy Nomad concept: Asside the mirrors, I perfer the styling of that concept over the Kappa based Nomad 1985 Buick Wildcat concept (styling almost reminds me of a Bugatti design at some points
September 3, 200520 yr ok so this wasnt exaclty a factory concept or anything and its only a few years old but i have always found this car interesting
September 3, 200520 yr Author ok so this wasnt exaclty a factory concept or anything and its only a few years old but i have always found this car interesting [post="8717"][/post] Me too!....really liked that car and thanks for posting it.
September 4, 200520 yr Author The '54 Dodge Granada concept. I wonder if Ford had to pay Dodge for the use of that name? Edited September 4, 200520 yr by HarleyEarl
September 4, 200520 yr Author The '69 Thunderbird Saturn II concept car. I wonder if GM had to pay Ford for the use of that name?
September 6, 200520 yr Agreed: the Granada is ungainly. I do not believe it still exists: I have never seen a later pic and a quick google turned up nothing.
September 6, 200520 yr Author I had never seen that Dodge Granada before. Bathazar, do you know the background on it?
September 6, 200520 yr Author Now that you say it FlyBrian....even the hood scoop idea, the lidded headlights...makes you wonder if these two had the same desiger...
September 6, 200520 yr Fly: The T-bird & Granada look alike like Brad Pitt & Frankenstein's Monster look alike; same features but definately different in appearance. HE: Info on the Grananda is extremely sketchy. It was built by long-time station-wagon manufacturer Ionia in MI of all fiberglas, including bumpers, brackets & some structural members. In fact it DOES survive, unrestored, in the Joe Bortz collection in IL. I cannot locate any current online pics of it, however. Edited September 6, 200520 yr by balthazar
September 6, 200520 yr Fly: The T-bird & Granada look alike like Brad Pitt & Frankenstien's Monster look alike. [post="10076"][/post] Ya know, some might take that to mean the two are the exact same cars. :P I just posted that because when I saw that grille, the T-Bird popped into my mind based on the hooded headlamps. Upon thinking more (and dropping more acid), I can see a more solid resemblance between the Granada and a '55 Stude...
September 6, 200520 yr Yeah- that makes more sense. Still, the Stude's palatable, the Granada is possibly the ugliest '50s proposal by a major manufacturer I can think of.
September 6, 200520 yr Yeahbut... didn't that Studebaker design predate the ghastly Dodge? I thought the Stude came out in '53.
September 6, 200520 yr The Granada is a '54. The beautiful Stude Starlight coupe design did appear as a '53, it's this particular chrome-dripping & protrusion-festooned '55 Speedster version that Fly is referring to. Actually, I have little problem with it, and it doesn't overcome the near timelessness of the rest of the body. "protrusion-festooned": :lol:!
September 16, 200520 yr Author More AMC concepts: '69 AMC Vixen: Edited September 16, 200520 yr by HarleyEarl
September 17, 200520 yr Me too!....really liked that car and thanks for posting it. That was the Stehr company prototype that they were trying to sell to GM as a retro model, built on a C5 chassis. Chevy didn't buy it, since they already had the C6 in the works, so Steyr put it on the market as a conversion kit....... but the price is $$$$$$$$! :o Edited September 17, 200520 yr by rkmdogs
September 18, 200520 yr Awsome thread!!! The Cavalier concept, as those who payed attention ot my old Trivia thread will rmember had interchangable body panels, doors, hood/trunk, bumpers & even all glass front to back.
September 18, 200520 yr O...M...G... check that GM concept once again... the headlights are right off a CTS! Oh, the horror! :o
September 18, 200520 yr Please, GM, never do this again: [post="15845"][/post] Isn't this the Ultralite? If so, I respect this car for its effort at trying to make a car as light as possible.....these were the cars there were tons of in Demolition Man.
September 18, 200520 yr Isn't this the Ultralite? If so, I respect this car for its effort at trying to make a car as light as possible.....these were the cars there were tons of in Demolition Man. [post="16230"][/post] Negatory. That's the fuel-cell GM Precept. This is the 1992 Ultralite: The vehicle structural weight including two doors, front and rear bumpers and interior components was 420 lb, which was within 1% of the original structural weight estimate. Engineering structural stiffness tests conducted by GM showed the structure to be considerably stiffer than anything previously tested. 420lbs. Think about that. That's what GM is capable of when it wants to do something. Best corporation building the best automobiles the world has ever seen - when it feels like it.
September 18, 200520 yr Author Yes and this one is way better looking.....and GM has been very capable in engineering and design.
September 19, 200520 yr meet the mighty buick blackhawk: Engine 1970 Buick GS Stage III 455 cubic inch V8 with EFI Horsepower 463 @ 4600 rpm Torque 510 lb-ft @ 4200 rpm Weight 3600 lbs (estimate) Power to Weight Ratio 7.8 lbs per hp Edited September 19, 200520 yr by zoomtm
September 19, 200520 yr Never cared for the Blackhawk...it looks like a replica or restored car versus a retro car. No me gusta.
September 19, 200520 yr Never cared for the Blackhawk...it looks like a replica or restored car versus a retro car. No me gusta. [post="16508"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] Like who cares ? :unsure:
September 19, 200520 yr Author I love the Blackhawk. Thanks Zoomtm for that great photo, have been looking for a good one. Wasn't it built for Buicks 100th anniversary? In fact there is a car that cruises around here that almost looks like it. Edited September 19, 200520 yr by HarleyEarl
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