Be sure you check out the Durango, and Charger, and Avenger, and 200C. I'm guessing they'll be present as well.

Of course you can go check out the Grand Cherokee right now too.

I also strongly disagree that the Ram is an also ran, since it features things no other competitor offers while having on of the best interiors in its class.

Some real world photos.

Well now I want to see it with a two-tone paint job.

that 200 logo looks like cheese.

not digging the sonata grille morphed onto this sebring, but remember its higher purpose is to introduce that same look now so the public is familiar with when it is more nicely integrated on the all new 200.

Its official. That nose job only helps when you avoid looking at the midsection, a la press photos. In the end, these changes have minimal effect.

Its official. That nose job only helps when you avoid looking at the midsection, a la press photos. In the end, these changes have minimal effect.

Yes, unfortunately in profile it's hard to see much of any change.

It really doesn't look deserving of a name change. Just a thorough update. The grill makes me think of of a time warp back to the later 300m's. Still no interior shots??

yeah, why no interior shots?

hey if there is a deeply discounted 200 with the new pentastar rotting on the lots next summer, loaded for 20k or so, that would be a nice car to rack up speed in.......

Well now I want to see it with a two-tone paint job.

Yeah, I think that a different color for the roof and pillars would actually help the 200, considering how tacked on the roof looks. The C-pillar doesn't flow with the rest of the car.

Helps to visually "lower" the car:

Might as well highlight that "arch."

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Have to disagree. As an example, the new Journey is more than good enough to compete in class. It was before the refresh even with its flaws. The new one adds a new more powerful V6, better suspension tuning, better NVH and of course new interior.

And I don't see how these are objectively 2x better. Or better at all, just different.

Equinox and Journey are "tweeners" that don't directly compete with CR-V, RAV4, etc. Journey interior is nice, but I doubt we're looking at $19,995 anymore. Compared to vehicles like Edge or Murano, it's nothing special.