...when I was out getting my breakfast.

Man!

Is it ever unattractive from the rear!

...when I was out getting my breakfast.

Man!

Is it ever unattractive from the rear!

I've only seen one so far in person, a few weeks ago. I really wanted to like it from what I'd seen online, but in person...the rear is too short and tall, IMO..the edge of the decklid seems to be 4 feet off the ground..very polarizing design...

Exactly.

Yuck!

EDIT: It's as if the lack of practice caused them to forget how to design a coupe.

Edited October 14, 201015 yr by Camino LS6

It is pretty wedgy.

I've just seen the one up the road, out front of the dealer- no different reaction than from the many pics, which is to say 'interesting'. Still need a walk-around.

It's awful! I've been complaining since I saw the first sketches and the concept. I can't believe that GM didn't fix that ugly butt.

It will be joining us for an interactive review during the 3rd week of November.

I love it. BOTTOMS UP!!

It will be joining us for an interactive review during the 3rd week of November.

I predict rear visibility issues...

I've seen a couple, back end is way too big. The car looks more bulky than sleek or sporty. The grille on the current CTS is an improvement, but I like the first generation's body more, it was much more sleek. The current car looks wide and over weight.

So after this car fails to sell 100K copies a year, people will cite this meh excuse for a coupe as proof that nobody wants coupes.

So after this car fails to sell 100K copies a year, people will cite this meh excuse for a coupe as proof that nobody wants coupes.

This is what worries me.

Coupes need to be good-looking, and this one just isn't.

a cadillac coupe of any kind is never going to sell more than 10-15k units a year now. and one with a price north of 50, I'll be surprised if they sell 5,000 of them.

a- very few people have any interest in coupes, crossovers, sedans, and trucks are what folks are in tune with

b- if they do want a coupe often they are young and broke

c- and then there are those that buy BMW's, Camaros, and Mustangs anyways.

ATS coupe may have a shot at selling. But CTS coupe exists more in the lineup for gravy sales and for image more than to generate an assload of sales volume.

that's probably exactly why it has polarizing styling and a useless rear. those few that want it and will pay for it, will want it bad.

Edited October 14, 201015 yr by regfootball

Volume is irrelevant- BMW 6 coupe sells horribly.

Profit is the prime concern.

cadillac has more dealers in the US to support so volume is important, and they do not have the global sales BMW does for the brand. So each model Caddy sells in the US has to do its part not only with profit potential, but also with volume.

that just underscores why the XTS matters.

if caddy makes 10k on each of 40k XTS the first year, that adds 400M to the profit ledger for GM.

This is what worries me.

Coupes need to be good-looking, and this one just isn't.

Depends what color it's in.

There are 2 2008+ CTS's in my neighborhood. Someone's got a 2009 Black Raven CTS4 Sedan with the 3.6DI and someone else recently bought a Black Raven 2011 CTS4 Coupe. Honestly the Sedan is my favorite but that coupe also looks absolutely rakish in black. The silver/white/gray just doesn't do it justice like black does.

The one I saw was black, and from the back it was just... well... not good.

a cadillac coupe of any kind is never going to sell more than 10-15k units a year now. and one with a price north of 50, I'll be surprised if they sell 5,000 of them.

a- very few people have any interest in coupes, crossovers, sedans, and trucks are what folks are in tune with

b- if they do want a coupe often they are young and broke

c- and then there are those that buy BMW's, Camaros, and Mustangs anyways.

ATS coupe may have a shot at selling. But CTS coupe exists more in the lineup for gravy sales and for image more than to generate an assload of sales volume.

that's probably exactly why it has polarizing styling and a useless rear. those few that want it and will pay for it, will want it bad.

A very rational post, sir....