You are able-bodied? There's work for you- not free housing, car, insurance, furniture & beer money in perpetuity.

I think this point is a bit anachronistic--Clinton's welfare reform did substantially reduce the number of people living on the dole.

I think this point is a bit anachronistic--Clinton's welfare reform did substantially reduce the number of people living on the dole.

Yes it did...and here I agree with Clinton and Balthazar. We need fewer people on the Dole, period.

But when you need it, you need it. Sister of one of the guys in the Miata club has Lou Gehrigs disease....she is 46 years old and can no longer take car of herself.

People like this should be helped IMHO.

I think this point is a bit anachronistic--Clinton's welfare reform did substantially reduce the number of people living on the dole.

It's NOT anachronistic- TONS more work to be done; TONS.

Entrenched politicians only seem to be able to execute cursory -not real & lasting- 'reform'.

I'm sure you heard that currently, welfare roles number 40 million for the first time in history, so it's more timely now than it's EVER been.

Again, I think we need to improve the small business climate....

Without real jobs, that pay real wages, this will never going to be solved. And the only way we can do this is by making small business.

I think if we could get ourselves together in person, we could do a lot of good. I was trying to bring everyone together via a LeMons car, but then the SCCA friends I had that were really interested kind of lost interest all of a sudden...

If you get back up to Michigan, let's get together Z and see if we can't make something positive come forth out of C and G.

I am flying in on November 12, and Thanksgiving Wednesday. Camino and Olds, where art thou?

Yes, Camino and Olds....where indeed art thou?