I think you all know I'd like to see all of these and more. But, I most want an El Camino ,of course.

How can Chevy outnumber Pontiac in the number of two-door cars??

Pontiac is the PERFORMANCE division!

How can Chevy outnumber Pontiac in the number of two-door cars??

Pontiac is the PERFORMANCE division!

Well, first of all, I'm not saying that that is or should be the case. Second, the answer is: easily, Chevrolet is the Everything division.

Riviera.

Well, first of all, I'm not saying that that is or should be the case. Second, the answer is: easily, Chevrolet is the Everything division.

It wasn't directed at you. It's directed at the marketing guys :AH-HA_wink:

Comments encouraged in this thread.

I...I...I....can't vote. I want them all.

Impala

Pontiac GP replacement

Buick Sedan - Lucerne replacement

Buick coupe/convert

Top priority is an Impala sedan.

Next priority is a Buick sedan.

Following priority is a Pontiac sedan.

After that, a GTO, then a Buick coupe and convertible.

I'll just say AWD models since I want probably about 80% of the choices..

I...I...I....can't vote. I want them all.

x2

For the sake of picking just one, I'd have to say that a RWD Buick Sedan is essential to it's survival.

literally, everything they can give, I'll be happy with

impala sedan

pontiac g8/gto, and smaller g6

buick velite/riviera/sedan

rwd crossovers baby

wagon

Don't forget that the question is what do YOU want most, not what GM needs most.

Hmm...well, if ya'll don't know how I voted.....

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"Why can't that be me?" ... 3 Doors Down ... 'If I Could Be Like That'

Interesting numbers so far.

Riviera.

I'm not sure why I didn't catch this one last night....

I agree ... a new Riviera would be nice, but not on Zeta, I don't think ... because, as far as I know, Rivieras were mostly FWD, right? I test drove an '85 Riviera last weekend and almost bought it for my winter car ... until I remembered it is FWD.....

Since the GTO, Impala & Buick sedan are already almost certain sister Zetas to the Camaro I voted Chevelle cause that would kick ass.

I'm not sure why I didn't catch this one last night....

I agree ... a new Riviera would be nice, but not on Zeta, I don't think ... because, as far as I know, Rivieras were mostly FWD, right?  I test drove an '85 Riviera last weekend and almost bought it for my winter car ... until I remembered it is FWD.....

Wouldn't you want FWD for winter driving? I thought that was the main benefit of FWD cars? :AH-HA_wink:

I voted for El Camino (and hopefully a GMC variant too) since I feel that all those other versions will come sooner or later. I'd really like to see the El Camino make a return a lot sooner.

All of the above...

What is this Sophie's Choice? Asking me to chose one of these is impossible. I want a full range - with AWD and wagons, and convertibles, and coupes and ...

All of the above...

What is this Sophie's Choice?  Asking me to chose one of these is impossible.  I want a full range - with AWD and wagons, and convertibles, and coupes and ...

Haha, me too. Just pick the one you want MOST.

That goes for you too,Z!

Wouldn't you want FWD for winter driving?  I thought that was the main benefit of FWD cars?  :AH-HA_wink:

*chuckles*

Some consider that the main benefit, yes ... but, I prefer to have RWD ... which my current daily driver ('87 MC LS) is. Just trying to find a suitable "winter beater" car so I don't get anymore rust on the '87 MC LS (virtually rust free when I bought it ... and through 2 winters, thus far, is still relatively rust free, with a few very minor exceptions).

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I hope you don't get mad at me for saying this KF but I think the Monte Carlo nameplate needs a hiatus. Right now people think of FWD Nascar-stickered two-door-Impalas/Luminas when they hear MontE Carlo. Perhaps putting the name on the shelf for like 4/5 years would do wonders. After all.... look at how the Camaro enthusiasts have excepted the new Camaro with open arms after the "hiatus" B.S.

And yes, I AM implying a modern-retro MC in the style of the Camaro. 1970s is where it's at for the Monte!

No ... no worries, Sixty8.

I kind of agree with you ... except, they screwed it up last time they gave the name a hiatus....

*shrugs*

So, who knows...he he he.

I would love to see an Impala Wagon again - but the AWD is important on all of the Zeta line...I only get to pick 1!?!?!?! Hmmm...

Well, then I guess I will take El Camino - BUT ( this is where I get kicked by other members ) i want the option of a two door AND the four door UTE that is in Australia so the damned thing can be practical if needed... (don't hurt me!!!) So that is what I would love to see on the obscure end of things...

A RETRO 67 Buick Riviera coupe would also be really cool...

See, I cannot choose just 1! They would ALL be worthy of building. The AWD is probably the most important of all on ANY of the platforms under the sedans/wagons/caminos.

I totally agree with you on the 4 door ute thing toesuf, having those on the US streets would be sweet

Does anyone think that any of the poll choices shouldn't be built?

Also, what didn't I list that you think should be built on Zeta?

Does anyone think that any of the poll choices shouldn't be built?

I would only say we shouldn't have a Camaro, Chevelle, Monte Carlo, and Impala coupe. That's just dumb, especially if it comes at the cost of a Buick or Pontiac.

I would only say we shouldn't have a Camaro, Chevelle, Monte Carlo, and Impala coupe. That's just dumb, especially if it comes at the cost of a Buick or Pontiac.

Reluctantly, I have to agree with you.

I would most like to see Camaro, and a Chevelle Coupe/sedan.

I expect what we'll see is Camaro, Monte Carlo coupe, Impala sedan.

If it were completely up to me, we'd get Camaro and a full line of Chevelles a la the Chevelle Project as well as a LWB Impala sedan (SS).

Reluctantly, I agree, too, Flybrian.

But, with my luck ... it'll be Chevelle, instead of Monte Carlo.....

I feel it they go to RWD as planned it is time to lay the Monte name to rest.

WIth the Chevelle it would give you a new herritage start and many options [2 door, 4door, convert, El camino, etc.] that fit with the name.

But on the other hand does Chevy need more than a Impala and Camaro RWD. As much as I would like to see the other cars is there going to be enough need or room in the line up for that many cars so close together in type? The more coupe options you offer the less Camaro's your going to sell?

The question is who are you going to take sales from ? Are they going to come from another company or from your other lines? Is there really room for a Chevelle with the Impala covering the 4 door and Camaro covering the 2 door markets. Add Pontiac and Buick it gets croweded quick.

I would at least save the El Camino with an Impala front and add a GMC with a Pontiac nose from the GP replacment. Then give Buick there to takes on this car in a sedan and Velite.

I feel it they go to RWD as planned it is time to lay the Monte name to rest.

WIth the Chevelle it would give you a new herritage start and many options [2 door, 4door, convert, El camino, etc.]  that fit with the name. 

But on the other hand does Chevy need more than a Impala and Camaro RWD. As much as I would like to see the other cars is there going to be enough need or room in the line up for that many cars so close together in type? The more coupe options you offer the less Camaro's your going to sell?

The question is who are you going to take sales from ? Are they going to come from another company or from your other lines? Is there really room for a Chevelle with the Impala covering the 4 door and Camaro covering the 2 door markets. Add Pontiac and Buick it gets croweded quick.

I would at least save the El Camino with an Impala front and add a GMC with a Pontiac nose from the GP replacment. Then give Buick there to takes on this car in a sedan and Velite.

Last I heard, it looks like Chevy will get Camaro, a coupe on a longer WB, and a sedan on the same WB. AFAIK, Camaro will be all alone on the shortest WB which will set it apart from any other Zeta coupes. I think it is a forgone conclusion that the sedan will be an Impala and that GM won't want to give up the familiar Monte Carlo name for the coupe. Chevelle was in the running, but I get the impression that GM is leaning toward taking the safer route by using Monte Carlo on the coupe.

At minimum, what should be built:

Chevy - Camaro (sports coupe), Chevelle (sedan)

Pontiac - GTO (sports tourer/GT class)

Buick - Invicta (sedan)

What would be nice, if a business case could be made:

Chevy - Monte Carlo (sport tourer, cheaper than GTO)

Pontiac - G8/Bonneville (sports sedan, step above the Chevelle)

Buick - Velite (near-lux coupe/conv.)

Generally, Chevies (with the exception of the Camaro) should be value and family-oriented, with SS models being sport oriented. Pontiac should be sport oriented, with GTP/GXP versions outperforming Chevies. Buicks should be luxury-oriented, ideally with a GS version that's more sport/lux.

-RBB

I do not want a Chevelle it sounds wierd but it has a spot in history that should never try to be recreated. Its like a Model T why would ford want to remake it? It would change its history.

I do not want a Chevelle it sounds wierd but it has a spot in history that should never try to be recreated. Its like a Model T why would ford want to remake it? It would change its history.

That's a matter of perspective - it depends on your age.

Pontiac is the PERFORMANCE division!

No it isn't. It likes to say it's the performance division, but there's very little performance offered by Pontiac. It's a mere shadow of it's former greatness.

I just hope that GM focuses it's efforts on Pontiac after Saturn is done. Otherwise, it might as well join Olds on the scrap heap.

At 52 votes, are we all done?

Some very interesting results if we are.

An Impala, a Buick , and an El Camino as the top three.

I never would have guessed.