I didn't realize this until I was wandering the lot at "my" dealer, but you can buy a brand new 2013 Grand Caravan for under $21k MSRP. How can that be beat as a family hauler?

Heck, it would make a fantastic weekend camper, too. Is it still embarrassing to be seen in a minivan?

Nah; mercedees built 'em, so it must be completely cool now!

Yup, I'm just sayin', the way things are in this country right now, this is a godsend for American families, I can't think of a better value in a family vehicle.

Vans are amazingly practical. It's too bad the socer mom stigma kind of killed them. As if the crossovers that soccer moms drive are so much cooler.

What? Nice!

IMHO, I think a minivan is cooler than a CUV... but I'd never buy one as long as a real van or wagon was around.

It's the Dodge Grand Caravan American Value Package, and it comes with some good stuff for very little money. $20,995.

Sounds like a great deal. For $20K, you could also get a CPO '08 Odyssey EX with a few more goodies (tinted windows, alloys, power doors, etc.)

It's the Dodge Grand Caravan American Value Package, and it comes with some good stuff for very little money. $20,995.

Woah, Dodge charges $995 for destination, so that's becomes $21,990. But then I'm sure there are incentives to offset that.