March 31, 20214 yr The Boattail is a beaut, the Imperial is sedate/stately, but the Merc is hideous. - - - - -
March 31, 20214 yr Author Hence the Good, the Bad and the Ugly Originally, I wanted to do gold hued early 1970s cars within those mid level luxo cars to match the soundtrack. But I wasnt finding any. I didnt want to do a 1966 Toronado. I wanted an early '70s motif. The Buick Boattail Riv had a hue that could have worked, but I couldnt find anything on the others. The Good: Buick The Baaaaaaad: Chrysler The Ugly: Mercury Edited March 31, 20214 yr by oldshurst442
March 31, 20214 yr 26 minutes ago, balthazar said: The Boattail is a beaut, the Imperial is sedate/stately, but the Merc is hideous. - - - - - I really like this car, it speaks to me of the awesome T top, smooth lines, Muscular and yet reserved. I like this just like I like my mid 80's Monte Carlo SS.
March 31, 20214 yr My Most Favorite Mid 80's GM Car, 1986 Monte Carlo SS Aero-coupe This is a pretty hot car too! Sweet Camaro SS Love me some GTO baby! Lovely Green Camaro Is it me or does Florida have allot of nice Muscle Cars? Coronet 440 anyone?
April 5, 20214 yr How come; for all the fuss & bother - the Italians could never build a car this beautiful? Edited April 5, 20214 yr by balthazar
April 5, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, balthazar said: How come; for all the fuss & bother - the Italians could never build a car this beautiful? To them that is not considered stylish or fashionable. Italian auto's have failed as they have always worried more about the fashion industry than peoples need for stylish, common sense transportation. IMHO.
April 5, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, balthazar said: How come; for all the fuss & bother - the Italians could never build a car this beautiful? As with everything, each according to his tastes.... however... the Italians were quite capable of building beautiful cars: It was the reliability that was always suspect. That said... I have lately been having an unhealthy obsession with these: 1990 Bentley Turbo R But I need an 80's British car like I need a hole in my head (which Albert would likely provide if I did buy one) And in looking for those photos, I stumbled upon this beauty: 1957 Bentley Continental S1 Fastback
April 5, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, balthazar said: How come; for all the fuss & bother - the Italians could never build a car this beautiful? Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I don't find this car and this particular era of cars very beautiful at all.
April 5, 20214 yr 19 minutes ago, ykX said: Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I don't find this car and this particular era of cars very beautiful at all. Different definitions of beauty certainly. I think, with automobiles especially, there is distinct difference between handsome, beautiful, and attractive. I couldn't call the Chrysler beautiful either... I reserve that more for the 20's-30's cars, the ones with the flowy curves. Handsome would be like the '56 Continental, '57 Eldorado Brougham, and I know most will disagree, the '80 - '85 Seville. Then there are cars that are good looking enough but don't fall into those categories, but they have gravitas, just the pull of "This is something/someone important". The '63 Continental, '64 Imperial LeBaron, the CT6 (particularly the refresh), the '91 - '98 S-Class all fall into that group for me. And then there's the over the top gaudy, which I love but also doesn't fit into the above slots. '58 Buicks and Olds go here, all of the Big-Finned Cadillacs, the '61 and '62 Imperial Crown, Lincoln Continental Mark IV, and the '57 Chevy in a blue-collar sort of way.
April 5, 20214 yr On 3/29/2021 at 1:17 AM, oldshurst442 said: *sigh* ... someone is posting fuselage bodies in the Beautiful Cars Appreciation thread again.... time to get out the ban hammer... and yes, I know one of them is a Mercury, but it still manages to look fuselage.
April 5, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said: *sigh* ... someone is posting fuselage bodies in the Beautiful Cars Appreciation thread again.... time to get out the ban hammer... and yes, I know one of them is a Mercury, but it still manages to look fuselage. I like the Mopar fuselage styling (much more than the finny Forward Look Mopies). And I like late 60s-early 70s Ford/Lincoln/Mercury styling. But 'beauty' is definitely in the eye of the beholder...
April 5, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, balthazar said: How come; for all the fuss & bother - the Italians could never build a car this beautiful? Of all the examples from that era you could have given, you go with the ugliest pepto bismol pink beast you could find. This would have been a FAAAAR better choice.
April 5, 20214 yr Of the late 50s-early 60s over the top fins and excess gorp era, I find the Chrysler 300 to be one of the most tasteful. 1957 and 1960 below. Though my personal old car interests gravitate towards late 60s, early 70s, and mid 80s much more sothan the 50s. Edited April 5, 20214 yr by Robert Hall
April 5, 20214 yr Like @Drew Dowdell with his Bently Turbo R obsession, I have also as most of you already know have bought my last V8 auto. I am having a very Healthy Obsession with these two beauties! Yes I realize that to many this beautiful cars appreciation thread is about past auto's, but I have to say that the future is looking AWESOME to me! ?
April 5, 20214 yr No kidding, Zippy. 3 hours ago, surreal1272 said: Of all the examples from that era you could have given, you go with the ugliest pepto bismol pink beast you could find. That’s merely time-altered / photoshop-tweaked red. 300 wasn’t available in pinks- too macho. ?
April 5, 20214 yr I definitely want to have at least one more V8. My V8 experience is pretty dated---'80s Ford 5.0s, '80s M-B 5.0, and '00s Cadillac Northstar. Definitely would like to have a modern Hemi or Ford Coyote in my life.
April 5, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Robert Hall said: I definitely want to have at least one more V8. My V8 experience is pretty dated---'80s Ford 5.0s, '80s M-B 5.0, and '00s Cadillac Northstar. Definitely would like to have a modern Hemi or Ford Coyote in my life. Unless I will be able financially to upgrade my Mustang to Shelby or to Mach 1 (better transmission and cooling) in the near future, I will be keeping it forever. I will be one of those old farts driving around in the old loud "muscle" car scaring people in their silent EVs I even think when I will get old and my hearing will get worse I will put back loud exhaust on it too
April 5, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, ykX said: I will be one of those old farts driving around in the old loud "muscle" car scaring people in their silent EVs That's the way -uh-huh, uh-huh- I LIKE IT -uh-huh, uh-huh-
April 5, 20214 yr Author 7 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said: As with everything, each according to his tastes.... however... the Italians were quite capable of building beautiful cars: It was the reliability that was always suspect. That said... I have lately been having an unhealthy obsession with these: 1990 Bentley Turbo R But I need an 80's British car like I need a hole in my head (which Albert would likely provide if I did buy one) And in looking for those photos, I stumbled upon this beauty: 1957 Bentley Continental S1 Fastback Look who's talking... (about ugliness) ? The '57 is awesome. The '90 one is a brick with wheels. Literally. But I do like it. And yeah...I also like fuselage Mopars. A '69 Polara 440 would be my favorite of all. So... whacha gonna doooo 'bout it, suckaaaah?
April 5, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said: . the Italians were quite capable of building beautiful cars: Then why didn’t you post a pic of one?? ?
April 6, 20214 yr The Miura may be my favorite Lamborghini as far as styling. The modern Lambos don’t really do anything for me.
April 6, 20214 yr Iso Grifos, Bizzarini 5300 GT, and Ferrari Lusso....some sensuous '60s Italians.. Edited April 6, 20214 yr by Robert Hall
April 6, 20214 yr Author 9 minutes ago, Robert Hall said: The Miura may be my favorite Lamborghini as far as styling. The modern Lambos don’t really do anything for me. Mine would be the mid 1980s Countach with all the plastic aero bits on it. Then the Miura. From the modern Lambos, I only like the Reventon which was a limited edition re-worked Murcielago. The Aventador which kinda has Reventon looks would be my last modern Lambo that I like. @Robert Hall I was JUST gonna post the Iso Griifo! LOVE IT!!!! (edit: post merged...) Edited April 6, 20214 yr by oldshurst442
April 6, 20214 yr A couple Dinos and a Maserati Ghibli.. I love the Countach, was one of the 80s exotics I lusted after as a teenager, along w/ the Ferrari Testarossa. While not necessarily classically 'beautiful', they were bold and brutal. I like the 308 and 328 as well... Edited April 6, 20214 yr by Robert Hall
April 6, 20214 yr Author And weird as it may be. On the Countach I prefer the 1980s excess version rather than the clean '70s version while on the Pantera I prefer the clean '70s version rather than the excess later versions.
April 6, 20214 yr The one Countach I didn't like was the 20th anniversary w/ the heavier cladding: I prefer the mid 80s w/ the big wing. I've read they added the wing due to customer demand after the car that appeared in Cannonball Run (which also had a front wing). Edited April 6, 20214 yr by Robert Hall
April 6, 20214 yr I love the Alfa Romeo Montreal...esp. the front end. Fiat had some good looking coupes in the 70s.. Edited April 6, 20214 yr by Robert Hall
April 6, 20214 yr Author North America never got these. I learned about these relatively recent. Apparently it was a hot little V8 sports car. And I do mean little. 2.6L V8 about 200HP Alfa Romeo Montreal @Robert Hall You beat me to it with the Montreal! ?
April 6, 20214 yr I saw a Montreal in Scottsdale a few years ago...they look great in person..really like the front end...
April 6, 20214 yr Miura (& Pantera: American-designed (Tjaarda)) are on the bland side, but still nice. I like them somewhat, tho they fall down on the details. Ghibli is quite nice, has definite American cues is probably why. Countach is incredibly overwrought. Ferrari 308 may be the most cohesive design from Ferrari. Most of the rest have unfortunate and/or awkward details I can't look past. Thumbs down.
April 6, 20214 yr I don't think I've ever seen the Miura described as 'bland'. C'mon, just admit to being a xenophobe about cars...we all know it.
April 6, 20214 yr The Italian houses seem to do well above the bumper line, but below that they always get lost. And they can't do lighting or make the front & rear fascia work with the rest of the car. I certainly could do a 'design analysis' on any one of these and better illustrate what I'm seeing. The #1 issue I have is poor detailing / integration of the small bits. It's like baking a superb cake, then icing it with one's elbow.
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