April 13, 20169 yr C&D has what I believe is the first test of a manual V6 Camaro up. It's a rather glowing review- http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-chevrolet-camaro-lt-rs-v-6-test-review. I decided this would be a great car to use for a new 'WWYBI' piece. Base price- $30,140 As-tested- $35,150 Range to spend- $27,125-38,665 As always, you have the price range allotted above to spend on a similar car that is new, and on sale now. Must use MSRP. Must spend at least $27,125. Cannot spend more than $38,665.
April 13, 20169 yr This is pretty tough because I think I'd rather not a sports car for nearly 40k(I'd rather a brand new daily) but if i has to be sporty...gimme a bit...
April 13, 20169 yr Author Bet you never saw this coming- Built a new GT Premium out to $38,590. 6MT w/ 20" wheels and no PP. I thought about the standard SS, but similar money gets heated/cooled leather in the GT, and I think it's the better looking car. Plus, the Guard Green is just gorgeous, and is going away after this year.
April 13, 20169 yr Author I try to keep as close to the original segment as possible just to diversify my choices from one thread to the next, but I suppose. In the real world, if I were spending 38K on a car to fulfill anywhere near the same purposes- fun, fast, usable daily- I'm buying a Golf R w/out question.
April 13, 20169 yr ^ That was exactly why I asked because a Golf R or Focus RS would suit me much better as a real daily driver.
April 13, 20169 yr Oh boy.... This is tough. Because as a family guy, a 2 door sports coupe is NOT on the radar. As a toy...then maybe even a V6 might not even fly. Or it might, but not as a Camaro. Or I might even do 4 cylinder Camaro or Mustang...or...Subaru BRZ with a boxer 6.... OK... Pony Cars.... I went on the Dodge USA website and it tells me that a Challenger R/T starts at $35 000. Scat Pack R/T Shaker at $38 995. It dont matter what trim I get, it means that a HEMI R/T Challenger fits in....so its that! And if a V8 is out of the question because of gas prices are high or what not... And Im looking for a 2 door sport coupe of some sorts to compensate me for a divorce and/or mid life crisis...and I wouldnt care for back seat space as much....then a Cadillac ATS 2.0T is how I would go. MSRP at 37 000 and change...
April 13, 20169 yr If this is going to be my second vehicle and therefore more of a toy... Mustang GT, not premium, with the PP and I think that might have been all that I added. Oh, I think I added the cloth Recaros as well. If this were to replace my daily.. it would easily be between one of these two: Golf R and Focus RS. It would really just depend on the test drive because I love them both. The looks leans towards the Focus, interior Golf, performance, both are plenty quick even if they are 2-3 tenths of a second apart in whatever the race is. I couldn't get the blue that I wanted as it was a premium price. I wanted those wheels regardless so I went back to white. But honestly, any of the 4 colors available look great. Edited April 13, 20169 yr by ccap41
April 13, 20169 yr Dang, I'd love to just be able to get behind the wheel of one of them! Luuuuucky! What was the sticker on it?
April 13, 20169 yr Author Dang, I'd love to just be able to get behind the wheel of one of them! Luuuuucky! What was the sticker on it? $37,570. Base car w/ just DSG. The thing is awesome. All the people who say it's not worth the stretch over the GTI, I don't get it. I think it is. I didn't expect there to be as big of a difference as there was. It's night and day. It's like a GTI turned up to 11.5. Better in every way. As it stands, it is hands down the #1 contender to replace my GTI.
April 13, 20169 yr I'll stick with the Camaro this time. It doesn't give up enough performance to the Mustang to make a difference.
April 13, 20169 yr Yeah, I know it weighs as much as an Aircraft Carrier and doesn't handle as well as the Camaro and Mustang. But something about the Challenger just does it for me.Also, I would have picked the Scat Pack version. But that would put me over by $300.
April 14, 20169 yr Dang, I'd love to just be able to get behind the wheel of one of them! Luuuuucky! What was the sticker on it? $37,570. Base car w/ just DSG. The thing is awesome. All the people who say it's not worth the stretch over the GTI, I don't get it. I think it is. I didn't expect there to be as big of a difference as there was. It's night and day. It's like a GTI turned up to 11.5. Better in every way. As it stands, it is hands down the #1 contender to replace my GTI. Now you need to find a way to get behind the wheel of an RS. Your reviews are solid and seen very unbiased so I know it would be a fair write up. Do that, find an RS to get behind. Lol
April 14, 20169 yr I would buy a Mazda 6 Grand Touring with the technology package. That comes out to about $33k, which is pretty much loaded for a Mazda 6.
April 14, 20169 yr Author I would buy a Mazda 6 Grand Touring with the technology package. That comes out to about $33k, which is pretty much loaded for a Mazda 6. Not even remotely in the same ball park, chief.
April 14, 20169 yr I would buy a Mazda 6 Grand Touring with the technology package. That comes out to about $33k, which is pretty much loaded for a Mazda 6. Not even remotely in the same ball park, chief. There isn't really a $30k coupe that I like, the Genesis coupe is rough and loud, I wouldn't drive a Mustang, Challenger is too big, and too cheap inside. 370Z does nothing for me. So I'd rather have a Mazda 6 that is a good all around car.
April 14, 20169 yr I know you CAN option a Camaro V6 to $38k, but it's a little ridiculous that every person is picking an alternative at that price point. C&D's $35k Camaro was pretty much loaded, short of unnecessary add ons like ground effects, stripe packages, and other useless frills. You can build a track-ready (brembos and track cooling systems) V6 trim for a hair over $30k, that's basically an N/A 335 horsepower sports car with more practicality than a 370Z. Edited April 14, 20169 yr by cp-the-nerd
April 14, 20169 yr Author I know you CAN option a Camaro V6 to $38k, but it's a little ridiculous that every person is picking an alternative at that price point. C&D's $35k Camaro was pretty much loaded, short of unnecessary add ons like ground effects, stripe packages, and other useless frills. You can build a track-ready (brembos and track cooling systems) V6 trim for a hair over $30k, that's basically an N/A 335 horsepower sports car with more practicality than a 370Z. I don't think anyone is disputing that cp. Also, some have picked the Camaro is SS guise. For what it's worth, at closer to 30K, I'd take the 'Maro V6 stick.
April 14, 20169 yr I know you CAN option a Camaro V6 to $38k, but it's a little ridiculous that every person is picking an alternative at that price point. C&D's $35k Camaro was pretty much loaded, short of unnecessary add ons like ground effects, stripe packages, and other useless frills. You can build a track-ready (brembos and track cooling systems) V6 trim for a hair over $30k, that's basically an N/A 335 horsepower sports car with more practicality than a 370Z. I don't think anyone is disputing that cp. Also, some have picked the Camaro is SS guise. For what it's worth, at closer to 30K, I'd take the 'Maro V6 stick. I'm just having a knee jerk reaction to alternatives that are priced to Camaro SS levels. Of course there are going to be superior cars if everyone defaults to $37,000+ as the benchmark against a Camaro V6 that starts at $28,000. I don't see anyone picking legit contenders like the Mustang Ecoboost, Challenger V6, the new Miata hard top, or the FRZ/BRZ/FT86, isn't that the point? It's like what would you rather have over a Kia Optima Turbo ($28k-$40k)? Well for $40k I can get an Infiniti Q50 or ATS 2.0T.
April 14, 20169 yr I know you CAN option a Camaro V6 to $38k, but it's a little ridiculous that every person is picking an alternative at that price point. C&D's $35k Camaro was pretty much loaded, short of unnecessary add ons like ground effects, stripe packages, and other useless frills. You can build a track-ready (brembos and track cooling systems) V6 trim for a hair over $30k, that's basically an N/A 335 horsepower sports car with more practicality than a 370Z. I don't think anyone is disputing that cp. Also, some have picked the Camaro is SS guise. For what it's worth, at closer to 30K, I'd take the 'Maro V6 stick. I'm just having a knee jerk reaction to alternatives that are priced to Camaro SS levels. Of course there are going to be superior cars if everyone defaults to $37,000+ as the benchmark against a Camaro V6 that starts at $28,000. I don't see anyone picking legit contenders like the Mustang Ecoboost, Challenger V6, the new Miata hard top, or the FRZ/BRZ/FT86, isn't that the point? It's like what would you rather have over a Kia Optima Turbo ($28k-$40k)? Well for $40k I can get an Infiniti Q50 or ATS 2.0T. Not really.. I thought the point was a "for the money" would you rather have less options but a larger car? or in your Optima Turbo and ATS question.. would you rather have a smaller, way less equipped ATS or a fully loaded up Optima with more space and possibly better fuel economy as well? I went with the Mustang GT but I'm definitely not getting the options and features one would get with the V6 Camaro. Heck, I went with a car with cloth seats at that price! All the while that v6 Camaro is fitted with about every gadget GM offers short of engine and performance upgrades. Just under the top price, but I would be happy with this! 2016FocusRS.jpg YUP. If I had to daily this sporty car I would go RS or Golf R route hands down.
April 14, 20169 yr I know you CAN option a Camaro V6 to $38k, but it's a little ridiculous that every person is picking an alternative at that price point. C&D's $35k Camaro was pretty much loaded, short of unnecessary add ons like ground effects, stripe packages, and other useless frills. You can build a track-ready (brembos and track cooling systems) V6 trim for a hair over $30k, that's basically an N/A 335 horsepower sports car with more practicality than a 370Z. Well, CP....with me, ya'll know quite well that I dont really like the 'Maros' exterior looks....and Im more of a mid-sized muscle car kinda guy....so.... Between the Alpha platform mates....'tis the Cadillac that I prefer. Not because of the badge, but because what body the badge is on....
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