" Et tu, Fiat? Fiat is the latest automaker to come under suspicion for excessive emissions from its diesel vehicles. So far the trouble is only in Germany, as opposed to VW's trouble in multiple countries. And instead of using VW's method of installing software that identifies when the car is undergoing an emissions test and only then turning on emissions control devices, Fiat is running out the clock. Because the German emissions test lasts around 20 minutes, Fiat is accused of having its NOx emissions control systems operate only for the first 22 minutes when the car starts up. "

 

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/04/25/fiat-diesels-cheat-emissions-tests/?icid=autoblog|trend|fiat-accused-of-emissions-cheat

This could bankrupt FCA if it is true. Be interesting to see if their diesels can pass the same test the college did on the VW autos.

Hahaha 

 

It's actually comical how these billion dollar companies are trying so hard to get these diesels into the hands of customers but by some absurd amount of risk. It makes no sense to me for any of these companies to fit any form of cheating device to their cars and take any risk at all. 

 

Is it that hard to play by the rules? Don't play the freakin diesel-game! Don't all of the automakers buy each others cars to break them down and see what's what? How have none of them figured the other one was cheating the system? 

+1 ^ So true, you would think some other auto company would have broken down the VW auto and discovered the cheat software earlier.

^ Right?!?! I mean they had to have opened it up and been like "What in the F is making this so efficient and still passing emissions? Oh and not having to use that exhaust fluid?"

Well... wait a minute... Why would that be trouble only in Germany?  An emission control system that shuts off after 22 minutes should be just as illegal anywhere....

I think the German government is the one to due testing and find a lot of these cars have emission controls that don't actually meet regulations, but it would be a problem everywhere.

 

Part of the problem is Europe is the tax the crap out or petrol/diesel and also put in super high MPG requirements, so in order for carmakers to get 60 mpg VW Golfs, they throw emission controls out the window.  These regulators need to decide if they want to impose restrictions on emissions or fuel economy.  

It's called quiet compliance.

 

I think it's present in the domestic makes too. And Japan, you betcha.