August 25, 20178 yr Pick a sleeper, describe it in an accurate but funny way. Only rule: Must be a true sleeper, so all sports cars and pony cars are out. 1. 1987 Buick Regal T-Type.... for when Nana is late for bingo but has 355 lb-ft of torque under her right orthopedic shoe.
August 25, 20178 yr In a similar vein to that Buick, there was a subtly modified dark red '78 Impala coupe for sale last year, someone had put a 425hp 383 in it...loved the look, blackwall tires w/ steelies and dog dish hubcaps. Found a listing for it. http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/chevrolet/103473-coolest-sleeper-on-the-road-zz3-383425-hp-v8-built-th350-410-custom-duals.html Edited August 25, 20178 yr by Cubical-aka-Moltar
August 26, 20178 yr Sleepers. Are not uncommon anymore. Take any early 1990s tuner car that any nerdy car kid with a lap top could plug it into his VW Golf or Honda Civic and voila...parameters changed and instant sleeper... Without the Fast and the Furious flamboyance of car graphics, insane paint jobs and even crazier rear spoilers...most of the late 1980s to todays hot version econoboxes are all sleepers...especially if one has taken the time to chip and tune... From the factory One could easily dismiss both cars, in their respective time frames, just as very economical base rides, but both are beasts in the go fast car world. Their base trimmed versions PS: I dont know about the VW Golf R, but I do know about the Honda B Series motor with VTEC...it was a highly tune-able engine that made Civics and Integras even more sleepers than their factory Type R cousins. Then there is the original Taurus SHO and the last gen SHO. While car crazy folk are still very populous, it seems the Average Joe of today is more clueless about cars then ever before so....even a "M" badged BMW or a legit AMG badged Mercedes sedan is a sleeper car in 2017. Or even a Chevy SS when there are no rear spoilers or body kits to alert the Average Joe of something special as opposed to a Lumina Z34 of yore... I doubt a clueless Average Joe would be able to tell a Hellcat from a Pentastar powered Dodge as today's mainstream fast cars do away with boyracer styling...minus the odd 2017 Civic Type R and Juke Nismo. The 3 B-Body cars...and Im using the Buick video as proof....they may look like sleepers, but they probably dont sound like they are sleepers... maybe the Caprice LT-1 is subdued enough to be a sleeper...but I doubt the Impala coupe is silent and the Buick...well we hear its fury when it ran its 9.85 secs @ 133 MPH and 11.89 @ 113.5 MPH runs... Edited August 26, 20178 yr by oldshurst442
August 26, 20178 yr What Im saying is that today, visually, the only clues we got is a tiny badge, tiny letter or two or tiny mascot as in Hellcat. Wide tires and/or very purposeful go fast tires or bad ass exhaust pipes and their location...(that Impala Coupe kinda tips me off) Or this one But know one could be sure...all that could just be fake...as in ricer.... But we can use our ears...if it sounds badass and nasty, it probably is. And it dont have to be a V8...that turbo spooling with the blowing off sound should tip anybody off... And I would just like to stress that with law enforcement so strict on speeders since the muscle car era along the fact that by the late 1960s muscle cars themselves were the ORIGINAL flamboyant Fast and the Furious ricers, sleepers got to be the way to go with many, but there are always tell tale signs...its just that today's clueless Average Joe, the signs could bite him in the ass, he still wont know...and today, these people are abundant more than ever.
August 26, 20178 yr I'm sure when the modded / ECM'd / mufflered Golf driver stands on it, it doesn't sound like a stock base car either. IMO, a true sleeper is not a car everyone basically knows about the performance variant, esp when that variant is hardly visually changed up over the base car (GTI). IMO, a sleeper is a car you'd never expect to be fast/quick cause it absolutely doesn't look it, there never was a performance variant and it's basically never modded.
August 26, 20178 yr In a similar vein to the Buick T-Type, the Mustang LX 5.0 in the 80s-90s was a sleeper...without the GT trim, it looked like a base 4 cyl if you didn't notice the tiny 5.0 badges and dual exhausts. Most of them got heavily modified and lost any 'sleeper' status they had as new, though.
August 26, 20178 yr 8 hours ago, balthazar said: I'm sure when the modded / ECM'd / mufflered Golf driver stands on it, it doesn't sound like a stock base car either. I agree...like I said...there will always be tell-tale signs if you know where to look. Which leads us to your other part of your post 8 hours ago, balthazar said: IMO, a true sleeper is not a car everyone basically knows about the performance variant, esp when that variant is hardly visually changed up over the base car (GTI). IMO, a sleeper is a car you'd never expect to be fast/quick cause it absolutely doesn't look it, there never was a performance variant and it's basically never modded. 1 hour ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said: In a similar vein to the Buick T-Type, the Mustang LX 5.0 in the 80s-90s was a sleeper...without the GT trim, it looked like a base 4 cyl if you didn't notice the tiny 5.0 badges and dual exhausts. Most of them got heavily modified and lost any 'sleeper' status they had as new, though. I will ALWAYS discount any RWD American car especially one with a V8 as a sleeper as the muscle car/hot rod mentality to hop up those cars is hard to pass up on... Even a late 1970s-1990s BOF B-Body from any GM brand or fullsized FoMoCo car. The next two cars below Along with GM and MOPAR and Ford crate motors...LS SWAPS etc... paved the way for these so-called sleepers below...which I dont think are sleepers... That Caprice...has a huge exhaust pipe...either factory LT1 from a police pack Caprice or LS swap...but probably a V8 under the hood that means business regardless and that exhaust pipe reveals the situation at hand. When the owner starts up his car...if it rumbles...it probably means its a legit muscle car... So yeah...I agree with your sentiment down below 8 hours ago, balthazar said: IMO, a true sleeper is not a car everyone basically knows about the performance variant, esp when that variant is hardly visually changed up over the base car (GTI). IMO, a sleeper is a car you'd never expect to be fast/quick cause it absolutely doesn't look it, there never was a performance variant and it's basically never modded. Edited August 26, 20178 yr by oldshurst442
August 26, 20178 yr How's this for a sleeper? Has a 400 HP small block in it. Edited August 26, 20178 yr by balthazar
August 26, 20178 yr One sleeper idea I've thought would be fun to build would be an '80s or '90s Town Car w/ the padded top, wire wheels and whitewalls..go full grandpa in the appearance but with a healthy 5.0 or 4.6 under the hood...a 'Hot Rod Lincoln'..
August 26, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said: One sleeper idea I've thought would be fun to build would be an '80s or '90s Town Car w/ the padded top, wire wheels and whitewalls..go full grandpa in the appearance but with a healthy 5.0 or 4.6 under the hood...a 'Hot Rod Lincoln'.. Or a 1980 to 1991 Cadillac Deville, Fleetwood, or Brougham ( or even the 1980 to 1984 Oldsmobile 98 or Buick Electra) and put a 6.2L V8 in it.
August 27, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said: Guys, I was more looking for factory sleepers, and jokes to go with. Sorry Drew. That would be my fault. I was the one that sucked the fun out of your intentions. Ill take this stick (hey...I am Canadian!) outta my ass and just let you folk have fun!!! I will join you guys when my ass starts feelin' better. Im usually not that uptight...(and no...no hidden messages in this...even if Im Greek....ha ha ha... The fun starts NOW!!!
August 27, 20178 yr How about the 2004 Subaru Forester XT, 14 second flat quarter mile from factory, gearing that made it a champ 0-50 mph. The sleeper of the Northeast lesbian crowd. Prices are "as tested" Vehicle FORESTER XT Vehicle Jaguar S Type R Price $25,520 Price $63,120 HP/Torque 210 / 235 HP/Torque 390 / 399 0-30 1.3 0-30 1.8 -0.5 0-40 2.6 0-40 2.9 -0.3 0-50 3.6 0-50 4 -0.4 Vehicle Chevrolet Corvette 50th Anniversary Vehicle Ford Mustand Cobra (Supercharged) Price $48,936 Price $34,750 HP/Torque 350 / 375 HP/Torque 390 / 390 0-30 2 -0.7 0-30 2.1 -0.8 0-40 2.8 -0.2 0-40 2.8 -0.2 0-50 3.7 -0.1 0-50 3.6 Even Vehicle Porsche Cayenne TURBO Vehicle Acura TL Type S Price $94,980 Price $35,195 HP/Torque 450 / 457 HP/Torque 270 / 238 0-30 1.7 -0.4 0-30 2.2 -0.9 0-40 2.8 -0.2 0-40 3.3 -0.7 0-50 3.8 -0.2 0-50 4.4 -0.8 Vehicle Nissan 350Z (TRACK VERSION) Vehicle Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (Supercharged) Price $34,619 (highest performance pkg.) Price $76,000 HP/Torque 287 / 274 HP/Torque 469 / 516 0-30 2 -0.7 0-30 1.8 -0.5 0-40 3.1 -0.5 0-40 2.4 0.2 0-50 4.1 -0.5 0-50 3.2 0.4 Vehicle Audi S8 Vehicle Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 (highest performance pkg.) Price $80,588 Price $52,000 HP/Torque 360 / 317 HP/Torque 405 / 390 0-30 2.1 -0.8 0-30 1.8 -0.5 0-40 3.1 -0.5 0-40 2.5 0.1 0-50 4.5 -0.9 0-50 3.5 0.1 Vehicle Audi RS6 Vehicle Cadillac SRX V8 Price $83,350 Price $48,520 HP/Torque 450 / 415 HP/Torque 320 / 315 0-30 1.4 -0.1 0-30 3.4 -2.1 0-40 2.2 0.4 0-40 3.5 -0.9 0-50 3.2 0.4 0-50 4.9 -1.3 Vehicle Ferrari ENZO Vehicle Cadillac CTS-V (has ZO6 LS6 V-8) Price $659,430 Price $51,195 HP/Torque 650 / 485 HP/Torque 400 / 395 0-30 1.5 -0.2 0-30 2 -0.7 0-40 2 0.6 0-40 2.9 -0.3 0-50 2.7 0.9 0-50 4 -0.4 Vehicle Maybach 57 Vehicle Ferrari Challenge Stradale Price $311,700 Price $193,324 HP/Torque 543 / 664 HP/Torque 425 / 274 0-30 1.7 -0.4 0-30 1.6 -0.3 0-40 2.5 0.1 0-40 2.2 0.4 0-50 3.6 Even 0-50 3.4 0.2 Vehicle Subaru WRX Vehicle Lamborghini Gallardo Price $24,520 Price $177,200 HP/Torque 227 / 217 HP/Torque 493 / 376 0-30 2 -0.7 0-30 1.8 -0.5 0-40 3.1 -0.5 0-40 2.5 0.1 0-50 4.4 -0.8 0-50 3.3 0.3 Vehicle Dodge Neon SRT-4 Price $21,000 HP/Torque 215 / 245 0-30 2.3 -1 0-40 3.4 -0.8 0-50 4.5 -0.9
August 28, 20178 yr The E36 M3 for when you can't afford that, but you DO know how to use your turn signals! The 1999 Ford Contour SVO Edited August 28, 20178 yr by lengnert Picture didn't show up
August 28, 20178 yr 2 minutes ago, lengnert said: The E36 M3 for when you can't afford that, but you DO know how to use your turn signals! The 1999 Ford Contour SVO The Contour SVO was a sublimely good car. On 8/27/2017 at 6:39 AM, frogger said: How about the 2004 Subaru Forester XT, 14 second flat quarter mile from factory, gearing that made it a champ 0-50 mph. The sleeper of the Northeast lesbian crowd. Prices are "as tested" Vehicle FORESTER XT Vehicle Jaguar S Type R Price $25,520 Price $63,120 HP/Torque 210 / 235 HP/Torque 390 / 399 0-30 1.3 0-30 1.8 -0.5 0-40 2.6 0-40 2.9 -0.3 0-50 3.6 0-50 4 -0.4 Vehicle Chevrolet Corvette 50th Anniversary Vehicle Ford Mustand Cobra (Supercharged) Price $48,936 Price $34,750 HP/Torque 350 / 375 HP/Torque 390 / 390 0-30 2 -0.7 0-30 2.1 -0.8 0-40 2.8 -0.2 0-40 2.8 -0.2 0-50 3.7 -0.1 0-50 3.6 Even Vehicle Porsche Cayenne TURBO Vehicle Acura TL Type S Price $94,980 Price $35,195 HP/Torque 450 / 457 HP/Torque 270 / 238 0-30 1.7 -0.4 0-30 2.2 -0.9 0-40 2.8 -0.2 0-40 3.3 -0.7 0-50 3.8 -0.2 0-50 4.4 -0.8 Vehicle Nissan 350Z (TRACK VERSION) Vehicle Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (Supercharged) Price $34,619 (highest performance pkg.) Price $76,000 HP/Torque 287 / 274 HP/Torque 469 / 516 0-30 2 -0.7 0-30 1.8 -0.5 0-40 3.1 -0.5 0-40 2.4 0.2 0-50 4.1 -0.5 0-50 3.2 0.4 Vehicle Audi S8 Vehicle Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 (highest performance pkg.) Price $80,588 Price $52,000 HP/Torque 360 / 317 HP/Torque 405 / 390 0-30 2.1 -0.8 0-30 1.8 -0.5 0-40 3.1 -0.5 0-40 2.5 0.1 0-50 4.5 -0.9 0-50 3.5 0.1 Vehicle Audi RS6 Vehicle Cadillac SRX V8 Price $83,350 Price $48,520 HP/Torque 450 / 415 HP/Torque 320 / 315 0-30 1.4 -0.1 0-30 3.4 -2.1 0-40 2.2 0.4 0-40 3.5 -0.9 0-50 3.2 0.4 0-50 4.9 -1.3 Vehicle Ferrari ENZO Vehicle Cadillac CTS-V (has ZO6 LS6 V-8) Price $659,430 Price $51,195 HP/Torque 650 / 485 HP/Torque 400 / 395 0-30 1.5 -0.2 0-30 2 -0.7 0-40 2 0.6 0-40 2.9 -0.3 0-50 2.7 0.9 0-50 4 -0.4 Vehicle Maybach 57 Vehicle Ferrari Challenge Stradale Price $311,700 Price $193,324 HP/Torque 543 / 664 HP/Torque 425 / 274 0-30 1.7 -0.4 0-30 1.6 -0.3 0-40 2.5 0.1 0-40 2.2 0.4 0-50 3.6 Even 0-50 3.4 0.2 Vehicle Subaru WRX Vehicle Lamborghini Gallardo Price $24,520 Price $177,200 HP/Torque 227 / 217 HP/Torque 493 / 376 0-30 2 -0.7 0-30 1.8 -0.5 0-40 3.1 -0.5 0-40 2.5 0.1 0-50 4.4 -0.8 0-50 3.3 0.3 Vehicle Dodge Neon SRT-4 Price $21,000 HP/Torque 215 / 245 0-30 2.3 -1 0-40 3.4 -0.8 0-50 4.5 -0.9 My daughter loves this vehicle, and yes, she prefers other young women.
August 28, 20178 yr 4 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said: The Contour SVO was a sublimely good car. I thought so.... I did buy a '99 Mystique in '01 and had that for a few years. I am of pretty generous proportions and still found it comfortable and a fairly competent handling car in less than SVO guise. Edited August 28, 20178 yr by lengnert
August 28, 20178 yr Author 5 hours ago, lengnert said: The E36 M3 for when you can't afford that, but you DO know how to use your turn signals! The 1999 Ford Contour SVO I really wanted one of these when they came out.
August 28, 20178 yr I don't have anything funny off the top of my head but a pair of good sleepers that comes to mind are the Trailblazer SS or the Mercury Marauder. Marauder: When Granny needs to grocery shop yesterday. SS: First quick SUV...I think..and this isn't funny but it's the end of a Monday, it's all I've got..
August 29, 20178 yr 21 hours ago, lengnert said: I thought so.... I did buy a '99 Mystique in '01 and had that for a few years. I am of pretty generous proportions and still found it comfortable and a fairly competent handling car in less than SVO guise. You won't hear this from the non Ford loving side of me...but...Ford has built some damned fine bread and butter cars through the years. In one sense I see this as a spiritual successor to the Falcons of the 60's, which were also excellent vehicles of their era. 16 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said: I really wanted one of these when they came out. That car just has the look!
August 29, 20178 yr On 8/28/2017 at 4:44 PM, ccap41 said: I don't have anything funny off the top of my head but a pair of good sleepers that comes to mind are the Trailblazer SS or the Mercury Marauder. Marauder: When Granny needs to grocery shop yesterday. SS: First quick SUV...I think..and this isn't funny but it's the end of a Monday, it's all I've got.. Well, I thought it was funny!
August 30, 20178 yr 15 hours ago, lengnert said: Well, I thought it was funny! Haha I'm glad it worked then! How about the choices..? Sleepers?
August 30, 20178 yr 9 hours ago, ccap41 said: Haha I'm glad it worked then! How about the choices..? Sleepers? No doubt on both! Both the last Marauder and the Caprice bodied Impala SS are spot on "Q-Ship" sleepers! I remember the Blazer SS slightly.... but I have no doubt it could boogie down the road!!!
February 21, 20215 yr I remember this thread. I flubbed it back then as I was tooo nerdy about the whole thing. Ill fix it. Chevrolet Bolt 149 kW of pure electric electricity and 360 Nm of pure neutral neutron torques. So a millennial could use the Bolt's navi system to get to the nearest Starbucks because regardless if that millennial drives by Starbucks EVERYDAY, he is more into shytty electronic gadgets than he is with sleepers anyway...
February 21, 20215 yr A sleeper has to be significantly quicker than the eye or 90% of bystanders assume it is. Like this crap-box : Edited February 21, 20215 yr by balthazar
February 22, 20215 yr Well, I think most folk know BE’s are generally quick, and I doubt the Bolt pictured is any quicker than any other Bolt... so that wouldn’t be a sleeper at all IMO.
February 22, 20215 yr Some old Volvo wagons had that sleeper status for sure. The last really good one though was the ‘97 850 R.
February 22, 20215 yr LOL THAT was NOT the point of this thread. I nerded it up back then, and you guys are nerding it up now. What we SHOULD have done, then and now, is just sit back, relax and ENJOY the jokes...
February 22, 20215 yr This is a neat sleeper..'96 Caprice 9C1 w/ supercharger. https://www.guyswithrides.com/2020/02/14/1995-chevrolet-caprice-9c1/ Though I'd rather see one about 10 years older, prefer the box to the bubble. Like this one in Hot Rod Magazine: https://www.hotrod.com/articles/hot-rod-drag-weeks-geriatric-cruiser-sleeper-84-caprice/ Or one of these w/ the modern 6.2 LT4 supercharged V8, 8 spd auto, suspension and brake upgrades, etc...or an NA LS3 GM Performance crate engine would be quite adequate also. Edited February 22, 20215 yr by Robert Hall
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