Lat night on the way home from running an errand, saw my first blue VW ID4 EV in the wild. Have to say they look better in person than photos and I like the lighting on the outside, the turn lights are an outline of the headlight, very easy to see, very quiet and looked good. Impressed with the look, just too small for me.

Saw a Ford Maverick (the new one) couple days ago, that light gray color, rolling. It's a little bigger apprearing that I thought it would be, but it's probably the squareness of the design doing that.

Edited January 11, 20223 yr by balthazar

Gassed up the SS at Costco and in comes the twins, Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe. 

I stated to the two owners that it has been a long time since I saw the twins on the road around here. Glad to see some still alive. Toyota Owner looked confused and asked why I said that, I explained, and he immediately denied it was co-built with GM. The Pontiac owner agreed with me and said it was a great little low maintenance auto he has owned since his parents had bought it new and gave it to him when he graduated college.

I told the Toyota Owner you can look it up online as it is built alongside the Vibe in a factory that was 50/50 GM/Toyota. Again, he denied it was true as all Toyota autos are built only by Toyota as they are the best quality autos in the world. 

I laughed and said is that why they have had millions of recalls lately because they are the best in the world? The Pontiac owner laughed also and encouraged the guy to look online while he was gassing up. He did, his facial expression changed, and he once done hung up the gas hose, forgot to get this receipt that printed and just took off.

Guess that bubble popped and deflated his day!

Can you imagine your automotive ego is wrapped around a miserable toyoter matrix??

Ive had a few of these kinds of conversations with Toyoter folk myself in the past.  And the denial and refusal to accept to the eventual bewilderment and shock as described by @David was eye-dentical!   

Toyoter ownership is like a cult.  LOL

14 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

Toyoter ownership is like a cult.  LOL

Is that the Cult of Ota?