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Lets see what Ridgline owners have to say: http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/...38233#post38233

How does one win an argument of biased opinions against Toyota, Honda, Nissan etc. I can't, especially when people refuse to see the reality of me comparing two niche pu trucks together. I will just sit back and let the sales figure be my guide. I will come back to this thread in 3 months and what I posted will be proven right assuming all things being equal. And for the record, the Ridline will cool off at an annual sales rate of about 45 to 50k a year. And I still say that is a success. And for the record, the Titan and Tundra are success given the expectations. The Titan, Ridgline and Tundra were never designed or expected to get the volumes of the Big 3. Any person here that argues otherwise is a fool. The Japanese are just slowly getting there foot in the door and chipping away at the Big three. Let the midsize car and minivan market be your guide. Also remember, beyond commercial applications, most people do not need or use a BOF pick up truck for what it is designed for and the same goes for SUV's. You ever wonder why the new Colorado has reduced towing compared to the S-10?

Didn't you read my other posts, where I have shown that there is plenty of inventory. I have already addresses this and that is not the problem for the catastrophic collapse of the Avalanche.

I did. Honda 16 / 21 Avalanche Vortec 5300 V8 2WD 4-speed automatic 14/19 4WD 4-speed automatic 14/18

According to Oct AN data - there is a 93 (15,000 vehicles) day supply of Avalanches at the dealers. With gas as high as it is, it will be impossible for the vehicle to achieve the highs of close to a 100k sales a year. Year to date the vehicle sold 55k. There are people here bashing Honda for something they do not understand. Particularly when sales of the Honda are increasing and sales of the Chevy have been cut in half from its highs. Honda is adjusting to future demand. Were it not for the DPH uncertainty, the Silao plant should be closed for a few weeks.

http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/...37556#post37556 Nice chart of increasing sales volume forgetting about the spike in Sept. resulting from the rise in gas. Production has been steady at 1,500 according to AN. y-t-d production is 56,000. Let me rephrase my statement, based upon an annualized selling rate using October sales, the Ridgline is projected to sell 60,000 vehicles in a 12 month period. Is that better math. Least we not forget, GM originally planned to make a vehicle very similar to the Ridgline off of Lambda. I am sure they wish they had those sales right now as the market moves to unibody trucks/suvs for the average none commercial application.

I do not think anybody has read the article or understands what it says. The Ridgline was never intended to cover the full pickup line of GM, F or DCX. Never. It was designed to add about 60,000 units a year to Honda's bottomline. And at current rates it is doing just that. And at a transaction price of close to $30k. Given the markets current adversion towards trucks and suv's the Ridgline is holding strong in the market. And Honda is preparing to adjust their production accordingly if necessary. Sorry folks the Ridgline is a success no matter if you like the vehicle or not or even understand the market they are going after. Looking at October's sales, Honda was up 0.4%. Guess who was down almost 25%.

Avalanche is not due to be release for another 12 months or so. No, I think that is highly unlikely given Octobers sales results of the Silverado being down almost 37%. And Honda is a niche product like the Avalanche. My comparision is very fair.

The Ridgline outsold the Avalanche last month. Almost 5,000 units sold versus 2,400. Yup, I would say that is cause for gloom and doom over at Honda. Honda is just adjusting their product mix to control their variable cost. I say that is smart.

Just goes to show, how interwoven the global economy has become. No one country is a stand alone entitiy anymore. All nations and respective economies are dependent on the others.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/30/magazine/30pensions.html Very long read but looks at a looming problem facing corporations and governments (state, local and federal). Someone will eventually have to pay for this.

Razoredge: Here is another book for you to read. The End of Work by Rifkin. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...=books&n=507846 Instead of reacting to change you might anticipate it.

The Japanese market is irrelevant to the US base. Any US manufacturer that would like to make in roads there would have to invest billions. Not only in infrastructure and product but the most critical market perception. They are picking their battles and China is the growth region. Strategic partners in the Japenese market is the most logical approach. That has already been taken care of. In GM's case, do not under estimate the importance of Suzuki. Your second point is not entirely true. Years ago there was the gold standard, today we have the US T-Bill standard. China's currancy is pegged to the US dollar. What do you think they are using as collateral. A few months ago, Korea was going to sell a big portion of there T-Bills and that made a splash. I just do not remember the specifics. And yes, many countries do purchase US bonds. But in the context of this discussion, my points are still valid.

See above.

You are so out of touch with reality I still continue to read your post with amusement. As I have said before, read some international economic publications. You might learn something. Who the hell do you think is keeping the US government afloat? US tax revenue? Try the Koreans, Japanese and Chinese. That is who are buying the treasure bonds that are funding the Iraq war, Katrina and the rest of the pork coming out of DC. That is who. Todays economy is so interwoven, and international, the WWII era principles you subscribe to are only small factors in todays world. As much as I though the book was outdated when written, go read a book. The book I recommend is Tom Friedmen's Lexus and the Olive Tree. You might learn something. Even from Friedman.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=U2

Do you google?

mapquest?

That is why the Sooners are ranked number 4!

Your posts are just amusing now because each one continues to show your lack of knowledge on the subject.

Reads like someone has their "panties" in a tither. This paragraph had me ROTFLMAO taken into the context of what I wrote. I am in tears. Indirectly he illustrates the problems facing the global auto industry.

So true on every point on your last post -when I was in Hong Kong a couple years ago, the only American made cars I saw over there were, MB M Classes, X5's , Z3. And yes - Honda is the largest vehicle exporter in the US.

I don't have any suspicions. Though in one form or another it will be a Sooner!

Yea, and I would put money on it that everything your are wearing right now, including the under wear you purchased at Wal-Mart says made in China or somwhere in Asia. Give me a break. You need to start educating yourself and read some global economic publications and not your biased union new letter. Times have been changing sir, you either roll with the punches and anticipate change or you fail.

Razordge: There you go again. Putting words into my mouth. I have laid out the facts and likely outcomes if certain action is taken as objectively as possible. Again, I will state, I have posted cause and effect. Please do not put words into my mouth. Supplier labor in the US is only worth 10 bucks an hour. That is the going rate in the real world. Instead of giving you feelings of the situation state some facts and do some analysis. I tire of this banter, especially when I attempt to post facts and you post feelings.