El Kabong
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Their Randon Thoughts thread. On a possibly related note, has anyone out there ever gotten a PM from a guy where he refers to himself as "the man, the myth, the legend?" And if so, did it make you snicker so hard you spit your coffee out your nose?
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The preceding post perfectly encapsulates the cluelessness of Ford in its pursuit of the luxury vehicle customer. Bonus points for mentioning flexible manufacturing systems as if they're somehow cutting-edge stuff (seeing as how I helped install the one in GM Oshawa in 2009, I can assure one and all they are not). Double bonus points for openly talking up Ford's upcoming dominance in the segment when they have shown precisely zilch to this point. And as to the last claim: that description has been achieved, albeit only once: it sounds just like GM, circa 1955-1970.
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Eh, I checked my PMs over there yesterday. The Three Ford Stooges were already back in full swing. I STILL say it's a deliberate effort to drive the place into the ground Update: TAF just posted a series of PMs from one of them. I couldn't believe what he wrote. Pathetic little coward of a kid.
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I stay away from the whole issue of driver liability just because in the land of lawsuits I've pretty much given up on the average American associating liberty with personal responsibility. And I'm from Canuckistan.
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Guys. The MKS, AWD and all, didn't work. The MKZ, AWD and all, didn't work. The MXC is struggling to move 2,000 a month and is an also-ran in comparos. I have sales numbers to back me up. I have comparo results to back me up. The styling thing is subjective. But again, Lincoln has burned through three distinct styling languages in three years, and the latest one is a highly derivative one. Names, schnames. Give me RESULTS.
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This man speaks truth. ^^^ Drew: even if they do a reasonably good job on the interior, what does that give you over, say, the Equus or Genesis? Ford is using a FWD-based platform, TTV6, and derivative styling to provide what they call "quiet" luxury. Problem is, they're doing it at a similar price point to an outfit that offers a V8, RWD, and derivative styling. From Korea. it is the same strategy as the MXZ, MKZ, and MXC, with a different name. Based on Lincoln's past track record, it seems reasonable to withhold the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
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It is a tragic situation whose consequences could have been greatly reduced if NHTSA did it's job.
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400hp in an AWD car.. and it's supposed to be running through the fancy AWD system of the Focus RS so it should still be able to get the power down(all 400hp) pretty easily. I don't doubt that the car will be competent. What I doubt very much is Lincoln's ability to make a production version that will distinguish itself. I already mentioned that this is nearly identical to the XTS-VSport in concept. And look how it turned out. Drew mentioned that the pricing should be competitive with the Koreans in he segment-ouch for prestige. And wings shot himself in the foot once again with his failed diss of the CT6's styling. I am glad to be in a place where I can criticize without being accused of being a troll. I harbour no ill will towards Lincoln. But by the same token, I'm not going to blow sunshine up their tuckus over a concept car that is a rehash of a failed product strategy. They. Must. Do. Better.
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All true. Except for the Camaro stuff, of course Good luck with your purchase then, whatever it may be.
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*sigh* ...anyhow, I'm taking delivery of my Laramie Limited EcoDiesel tomorrow. Sergio's a bit of a maroon, but he has a Maple Leaf on his passport, so he's MY maroon. And there you have it: yes, Mopar has issues I think need to be addressed. Yes, they're rather large issues in some cases. But at the end of the day they can still produce a vehicle I can throw down my cold, hard cash on.
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If the Continental actually goes for 50-70k it has far bigger worries than ripping off Fusion sales. I get that this thing has a killer show car interior and reclining rear seats. But really, that's about all it has that's different than anything else Lincoln has tried to make work since I was in high school. And I'm sorry, but I've been down that road too many times before. Cadillac needed three generations of the CTS before they were finally able to overcome the doubts and skepticism of the folks who cover this business. Mark my words-when this thing hits the ground, the nice words will go away and they will call it what it is-same old same old. All sizzle and no steak from Lincoln-again.
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