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Thats not what I asked. You said "A guy who just joined and has 2 cumulative posts represents an entire message board?" and I asked WHERE I said that. The point is that I didn't

Where did I say that??

http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...id=90063&st=0 Post #10 This message (or a variation thereof) has been on GMI, Blowoval, and Allpar as well. Being that C&G is one of the most anti-toyota forums on the internet, you can't honestly expect me to believe no one went over there to spout off. And the haters all whine and complain just like gmrebirth. Its the circle of (forum) life

Someone ACTUALLY spent that kind of money on an ASTRO? It might be not a such big deal, but that paint costs 10 bucks a PINT. I can't blame a minivan driver for wanting to do SOMETHING to their car, expecially being that I am a former (and never again to be) Caravan owner... But holy hell! Anyway, I do like the xB. I sat in one and drove it... The center gauge is kinda quirky but the amount of room in that thing is phenomenal. The engine is a little underpowered, but the tranny makes up for a lot of that (especially the 5 speed). Given the standard features, you get a lot of car for your money, even though it's got that love/hate styling... I still think it looks better than an Aztek (cleaner anyway). And rebirth, I think these guys have a point.... It's no different when trolls here went to toyotanation to correct "misinformed" opinions about the Tundra (even though no one knows much about it yet) or when GM/Ford/DCX fans go to temple of vtec to troll... I'm not saying you're wrong or they're wrong, but this is a GM fanboy forum

That comparo doesn't make much sense to me. The number of Daihatsu autos in this country is infintesimal compared to the number of Accords alone. Did this dude just do tires or was that a full service garage? Maybe I'm just missing the point... Fill me in here guys

It's not that surprising really... Lexus models are just high end Toyotas in Japan (Soarer, Aristo, Harrier, Altezza are SC430, GS430, RX330 & IS300 respectively) That might have changed with the redesign, but BMW & Mercedes are huge there. Lexus would have some work to do to make serious inroads in the lux market. I don't blame them either... I would sooner buy an M5 than I would a V-series Caddy, for example.