warren sanford

:( Oh i'm sorry-forgive my french....this attitude explains the Aztec, Malibu, Geo, Saab, Daewoo, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Flint , Pontiac, Delphi, whatever-sorry I said Cum.

:blink: oh good-were restating results for GMAC for a few years past "The statements are no longer reliable" according to GM brass. :censored: EDIT: bad language. Warren, please keep it clean. We don't approve of that kind of language here. Thanks. -z28luvr01

:deadhorse: It's a Buick-let's not lose focus....I wish there was this much interest in a new GTO or a skylark 4 seat flip top or a camaro based cadillac(think eldo but with balls think ctc)- what Buick need is a flagship (not fagship like the Lucerne)...sorry Bob. Zeta is the future-get on the bus!

What the hell is the point of a $40K mallet anything when a standard Corvette will eat it's lunch in every relavent measurement including MPG-for the same price (more or less)...and the depreciation of an altered pontiac (think hopped-up Fiero) would be unacceptable. Fun for 1 (or two etc) but I'll take a real car anyday. Spend time on the Chevy StingRay and quite f@#kin around already!!

:P LaCross translates to "masterbation" in french-the "Super 8" photo is kicking my ass! Do you think they do this on purpose? How funny!

Pontiac should only get the GTO initially-the complimentary 4 door should be Buick's(Park Avenue)-then a Grand Prix (g8) and Riviera (Velite)....GM should try to eliminate overlapping vehicles on the same showroom floor-pontiac should try to stick to fast at all cost-buick should focus on luxury, grace and quality...a rounder Cadillac-less athletic-more (sorry) Jaguar/Audi style comfort/performance/stance. Every GM division should have to justify it's existance-Buick is the only one to be exempt-W/O Buick --GM would never have existed as a company.

Saturn and Opel are made for each other....but I worry that building Saturn Auras on the same line as Malibus, G6s, Saab 9-3s-etc etc etc will render the concept of Saturn as "counter GM culture" unmarketable-the Springhill plant cannot be closed-this is a cult/loyalist car company-or at least Saturn enjoys astounding loyalty from it's customers. Overlap between brands that share showroom space should be eliminated...GMC, Pontiac and buick should operate as one entity-Cadillac, Hummer and Saab should operate as one entity-Saturn and Chevrolet should be stand alone entities. Good world cars are key. General Motors is always re-inventing the same wheel. Pontiac needs an awd version of the Corolla/Vibe and call it pursuit(non delta for differentiation) and build it in fremont. Lose the Relay-ick! Give Saturn the Zafira-and ALL the versions of Astra-folding vario-roof, wagon, sport sedan, and killer super hatch(redline) to kill Honda type R. An Aura sport wagon ( ala avant quattro) would round out the marque. The Outlook needs to work the first time-GM cannot afford a Pacifica. I would go on, but I have shit to do.