Sal Collaziano

Perhaps they figured the older crowd wouldn't use it. Otherwise, the G90 is a pretty impressive luxury sedan. Check out this comparison from an ex-S-Class owner: https://genesisowners.com/genesis-forum/threads/first-impressions.22939/ It may not be a fair comparison as the owner of the S-Class came out of the previous generation. However, it'll give you a solid idea how close Hyundai/Genesis is to the leader in the game...

Sorry to hear about you almost getting hit! I agree, it's probably 95% because of everyone being on phones... How the world has changed... I agree with you that it is both the responsibility of the driver and the pedestrian to be aware of their surroundings - but by law - the person walking (and I believe riding a bike) always has the right of way at the end of that day. Perhaps that's changed since I originally learned that... When all is said and done, people driving need to pay attention to the road. Being on Facebook at the same time as driving - you might as well have a car racing video game displaying on your windshield with your vehicle's steering wheel working for both real drive and the game - simultaneously...

While pedestrians should be aware of their surroundings - it is more of the driver's responsibility than it is the pedestrian's. It is the pedestrian who has the right of way. You never see a driver sue a pedestrian for damage to his/her car after hitting somebody.

Distracted driving has made all the difference.

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The non-sport version is highly appealing to me and I'll probably buy it.

Thank you. Haha. Yeah, I'm typically pretty good with my 0-60's and 1/4 mile times but this one just slipped while I was doing too many things at once. If Kia ever comes out with a car running sub-12's, that would be some serious competition for big names in the industry...

Our whole conversation at this point is just one big accident because I should have never said the car does the 1/4 in under 12 seconds. Total accident and I apologize for wasting your time. All that you wrote up there - should have never happened... I've been running a Stinger community for an entire year and never once said (or even remotely believed) the Stinger was anything but a high 12 second/low 13 second car. It was just a slip of the brain that my statement came out that way. My fail of the year.

Well that's my facepalm of the day and what I get for rushing. I meant to say something like "runs 12 second 1/4 miles out of the showroom". Yes, of course, if it were running anything like 11.99 or under and cost anywhere near $50k, that would be tremendous news... I'll come back and read this rest tomorrow. I'm out of time for today - but I HAD to come back and correct that error... Also, I never said he (ccap41) was annoyed at anything. I said, "I can see how it may annoy some people" - that wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I actually wrote that line before he began participating in the discussion...

It's been done so many times at this point that I don't know where to begin. These guys got a 12.7 but only mustered a 4.8 0-60...

The Kia Stinger is a grand tourer and concentrates first and foremost on a comfortable driving experience. There are quite a few luxury amenities and it's a very quiet car. It's not supposed to be a four door Camaro or Mustang. I can see how it may annoy some people that Kia has a rear wheel drive car that can hit 60mph in 4.4 seconds and run 1/4 miles in under 12 out of the showroom. That kind of thing isn't supposed to happen. But it's nice that it does - and it's nice that Kia is offering this to people who don't mind a Kia badge. It's certainly true that Canadians are getting a much better deal and have almost every option available in other places. The only thing they're missing is a suspension option only available, to my knowledge, in Australia. I don't believe the Canadians get the same warranty we get here, however. The most wanted feature missing from our Stingers is Surround View Camera. I'm not sure why they left out this feature (and a few others, like wireless charging) but I have to imagine it has something to do with the Genesis G70...

I remember my 2005 was really comfortable as well. I haven't spent enough time in a newer model to really compare but I see what you're saying...

I just joined a club and replied to a topic within. Very nice. I do like it. I'll probably renew one of my IPB licenses to start a forum of some sort in the not too distant future.

Just a suggestion but I feel it would be a good idea to extend the forum width to 97% or 98%. The important content is in a box that's too narrow with the sidebar on the right. It's just wasted space on either side - might as well utilize it...

When you say "flat seats" - what do you mean? Here's a good picture of the current generation's seats... They don't really look flatter to me than the picture you posted of the second generation. Seating comfort is very important to me and that's why I'm curious about this. I heard people say the same about the third generation Escalade seats. Not that they were necessarily "flat" - but less comfortable. So I was a little surprised to see this being said here, again, about the new generation. If the seats really aren't as comfortable as the second generation, I wonder what's going on. Perhaps people just feel differently about seat comfort. I prefer soft and plush like the Cadillacs in the 90s and early 2000s...