texasred

Have you seen/driven any Saturns? Cut-rate, shoddily made 1990s Toyotas. And have you taken a good look at the new Saturn Sky? Even on the showrooom floor, 3 out of 4 have wrinkles in the convertible top.I'll agree that GM put the Olds division and Olds dealers against the wall in the 80s in preparation for their eventual demise. It was a very deliberate path. Read "Racing to the Past" and "Project 2000" for the real back story. You can even see the handwriting on the wall in the deliberately non-controversial "Setting the Pace". I haven't seen anything in GM that actually means upscale styling, innovation or refinement in a long time. We waited on a new car for months to drive the Buick Lucerne. Just another rental car. That's why we bought a Dodge Charger. And I'll keep my 71 Cutlass Convertible until they pry the drivers seat from my cold, dead ass. C.J.

I will not buy a GM car in the forseeable future because: 1. They killed Oldsmobile to dump more money into...SATURN??? 2. They just don't get it. Get what? Name it: SUVs, electric cars, nostalgia cars (that Camaro is just sad), blaming the unions because they build cars nobody wants... C.J.