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Honestly, one could only hope for such a controversial designer in the GM fold. I would think he's restraining himself with what he does at BMW. (Ironically enough, he began at Opel)

Looks like someone's project from old Colorado and Frontier boneyard parts. And yeah, it probably isn't up U.S. consumers' alleys right about now. Though Honda could take notes from this for the next Ridgeline.

QUOTE(66Stang @ Jul 10 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]410950[/snapback]...those of us from Ohio are allowed to enjoy our sexual deviations.... Chris A comedian on XM yesterday said Youngstown was where anal sex was invented in 1913.

Gotta diversify in these times. It's OK for a sports car brand to take its image beyond douchey two-seaters. While the SUV is sacrilege (though no one complained when Lambo did one), I'm all for this kind of car here.

Everything your garden variety douchebag(/in training) could ask for.

Another area where U.S. tastes get on my nerves: Can't appreciate a hatch car....but love some damn SUVs (well, at least they did before today's gas crunch)

Sorry that not everyone's gonna be about 3-ton, 230-inch behemoths from the anti-communism era. Times are changing. People have new eras to be nostalgic about, and cars to appreciate to go with it. And let's not forget we're in the $5 gas world. Appreciation clubs for any given car are NEVER a bad thing. I say that and I probably hate Aries and Reliant arguably more than I hate Tempos and Topazes. But not all the Chrysler fronties of that era were turds. That 024/Charger/Turismo, Lancer, and Omni were all cool (when turbo'ed up). 90s Daytonas, Shadows, and those Imperials and Dynasties have a capacity for looking somewhat handsome too. I smell a good spinoff here....due to the fact I respectfully disagree.

Do GLBTs care how feminine or masculine a car is?

May as well expend my 1000th post here. Yeah, the Corsa could have fit that bill smashingly. Call it Firefly in Canada or across all Poncho markets. Ain't like it's already planned for Saturn....or is it?

Yeah, I disagree with C&G's consensus on this car too. Sex on wheels it isn't, but I always found it worthy for something simple to drive to work and your kids' activities. Right now, the people want practical cars that won't mollywhop them at the pump in this crummy economy. Just make the inside more livable and this will be on a lot of lists.

How does the high altitude allow for lower octane? What's the octane number of premium there?

A+ post uppage. What a difference a year makes. Most of SoCal's about $3.90 on average right now, but the Westside is deep in four buck hell. I saw regular going for $4.30 the other day over there.

What the heck is a Donkmobile? I can't imagine 22s to be very large on those 70s cars....problem is the douchebags who usually throw them on leave the car all high in the air. 50s cars look completely silly on modern styled wheels. Should be something like Torq Thrust 2s or Panasports, and should be no large than 18".

Saw a Duster on frickin' 20" IROC wheels. Simply sacrilegious. That's like throwing Mustang rims on a Camaro. And a '58 T-Bird in some repair shop lot. Looks smaller than I figured it would be, as if it was evolutionary from the 55-57.

Forgot that I also saw a 55-57 T-bird yesterday. Exact year, I don't know, but i also saw a Dart Sport (the car Demon is based on) last week. Unusual, because most everytime I saw that body style as a kid, it was a Duster. For every 40 Dusters, 1 Demon. But never a Dart Sport.

The today show: -a furious pack of yellow and red Ferraris and Lambos heading the other direction on the 101 -navy blue Astra 3-dr. SEXY © Dwayne Wade -a black Ferrari Spyder, looked newer than the 355 (last Ferrari I can tell a mile away)

I haven't been here as much as most of you. I'm catching up on what was worth talking about.

Ironically enough, me reading this post, I saw one this morning. It's been a while. I see a lot of increasingly rare machines out here, but might not know the name of them or think of posting here way too late.

Sometimes I don't feel right talking general automotive discussion in The Lounge. Does it go in the kinda general part of The Other Guys? Is the general car discussion intended to be here? Or is it likely we should start a new sub-forum for general car discussion (topics that aren't specific to one brand or otherwise don't fit other forums, but don't fit the tone of the Lounge)? To me The Lounge seems more for social topics than anything automotive. Mods, Admins, other regular posters, what say you?

To be fair, GM cars (except the poor G6) escaped that Worst list unscathed. Looking at the rest, when you consolidate the badge engineering: Astro/Safari-same vehicle Blazer/Jimmy/Bravada and their 4WD pickup equivalents-same vehicle All the U-body vans, plus the Aztek/Rendezvous based on them-3 different models, but same platform (panned here quite heavily) 4WD Colorado/Canyon-same vehicle I see four forgettable trucks and vans (two of which were pretty chintzy looking inside, so you could only imagine how they held up for the average driver, and one which was the same basic design from 1985). Besides three Lincolns, Ford played the middle of the pack too. And only one of each Chrysler brand made the Worst list, with again 0 cars. In any event, I expect them to say the Japanese make automotive gold. But the Worst list didn't tell the real story of the Americans, if you're smart enough to notice.

So the real news here is that the next mid-size truck will be ALL-GM and will be engineered for the entire world in Brazil?

Well, that was all Man Show, he doesn't normally stress that.... And I can do without all that also...it's bad enough so many car magazines emphasize cheap titillation like that.

Adam is manly man enough that he could add that perspective to his car talk. I wouldn't expect him to come in there dissing Detroit iron so much as I could see him going in on all these chick cars of today. Tim Allen knows his Fords at least. Seinfeld would be totally useless. How about Funkmaster Flex?

I had no idea such a show was in development. Where do they plan on slotting it, prime time on a weekday? It's gotta be entertaining first and foremost. Surely they could find someone from the buff books to counterbalance the Comedy Central posse.

Well, someone noticed. I'm just hoping to get some good buffet eating and shoe shopping in this weekend. Been trying to turn over the wardrobe, swap out these cracked-looking kicks and fuzzy shrunk-arm shirts for some crispiness. And of course, gotta see Street Kings.