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Yeah I actually kind-of like them... But I prolly end up with a Cobalt, Impala, Grand Prix or something like that pre-owned. I don't think I could live with such a whimpy car. The guys on here kind of helped bring me along.

I am actually excited about that, hopefully I can get one new for 10K and get another 1K off with my GM card. That would be great! I do understand the fact it doesn't fit in a performance line-up but if gas hits 3 or 4 again they might not seem like such a bad idea. Why did you feel the need to bring me into this honestly? I just hope the "large supply" means great prices!

He'll do whats right for the Unions, then GM comes back to the table a few years later. Hopefully with someone in office who isn't out to "save" the Unions. I hope the UAW gets real, and so do the execs who have made darn bad choices. Obama might be smart enough to realize he can't give into the UAW and have a sucessful GM... I hope so, and I would like to see that, the less goverment in this chapter 11 filing the better.

Exactly.

Some more really GOOD ideas.

If it comes to three nameplates and I am not talking divisions or sales channels, here folks names. Then I would make it simple seriously... Cadillac- Luxury. Chevrolet- Volume/Mainstream. Pontiac- Sporty/Performance. If it is three divisions or sales channels I would make it Chevrolet, Cadillac, BPG. The reason I came up with the three I did is because GMC is just a Chevy rebadge on all products, give Chevy a high end line-up like Denali aka LTZ. Buick is affordable luxury but all that can be had in a Pontiac or Chevrolet, or have the customer step into a low end Cadillac so whats the point of Buick? This is if IT IS ONLY a three nameplate company. I still say file chapter 11 get rid of the union and bad buisness practice, start fresh with Chevrolet, Cadillac and BPG. That is just my thinking.

You know what I think you might just be right. Give Caddy RWD/AWD and give Buick the FWD Acura/Lexus stuff. That would work out well.

Sad to say but true.

Toyota seriously.

Right on! I hope this is what happens.

Well I am not saying its good news, but I could have heard worse. I would really like to see BPG work, maybe it will just be PG, GMC is has alot less value without a car line. So you can only get trucks at those dealers? What are folks suppose to do run over and get a Chevrolet. I can't find dealers the BPG ones being real happy with JUST a truck line, and no cars. I hope it is Cadillac, Chevrolet and BPG, that would work well. I DON'T want Obama running an auto company. Let him ruin Toyota. Because BPG is ONE sales channel!

Yeah another jack-ass that shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. Ruined a perfectly good car.

You lucky SOB's in Canada get everything. Well all these remarks and comments have me looking at Cobalt's and G5's used for about 8 grand with sticks. All coupes of course, I think I might have to steer clear of the Aveo5/G3 if they are as bad as so many say.

Seriously I would go Cobalt SS, no question, faster and its a coupe.

Yes, that is what I gather from riding in many of them. Still the Aveo5/G3 are very appealing.

I agree.

Another great post by reg!

I know it is a Daewoo, but how do you like your new Cobalt? Does it drive well?

Oh no I wasn't coming down on your just saying. I like Buick, prolly won't own one but like them. My aunt has a Lucerne CXL and that is a uber nice car, the new Enclave is great and so is the up coming LaX. BPG together is strong and is a nice alternative to Chevrolet, without one and I mean any brand it would be bad. I wouldn't want Buick to get the nix at the expense of Pontiac anyways.

Roger it is clear you want a Pontiac, so get one. Even if it isn't perfect driving excitement! As for the Astra I like the look but I sat in one and wasn't real impressed, the center stack is odd. Hell I am even thinking about a G3 or Aveo5 new myself, 5spd of course!

Exactly.

Welcome to Cheers and Gears if you think they are being mean to a damaged brand Buick, you should see what they say about Pontiac. Sounds like GM is actually moving foward. As for BPG I figure they are safe for now. I think Pontiac will live even though the keep being placed in the "bad" group. Pontiac was GM's third best selling divison last month... Volume means something, I know it does. So Pontiac being put in the bad group is bull$h!! Time will tell.

Waste of a perfectly good Trans Am. I hope it was just a dressed up Firebird but I doubt it. Way to ruin an American classic! Whomever did this should not be allowed to reproduce! UCK!

Really, so they have a good shipment and then a bad one eh? Well I really like the G3, alot actually the front is more refined and less "pigish" than the Aveo5, but I am open to a Cobalt Coupe or G5. It would be to and from work and around town car for our family/son. So something small and fuel efficent is okay, and the 5spd. is something he wants to learn better, he has done it some with a friend. I wouldn't mind brushing up on my skills either (for the Camaro SS, my son or I will get someday, hopefully he will get one, then I'll just snag it!) the wife is excited because she had a small hatch-back a Colt back in 80's. She actually taught me to drive a manual! I know a few people with Aveo's and they seem to really like them. I am not doing anything today or tomorrow if anyone see's a new stripper Cobalt XFE Coupe for under or about 10K let me know though. Most are more than I want to spend.

GMCT that '09 G5 GT is pure sex, also do consider a "more basic" Torrent my wife and I, hell the family loves ours. Decent fuel economy, good styling, nice MCE in the center stack and pretty good pep. I would say personally get the G5 GT or Torrent but I am considering a G3 for another car so that might be a more economical option as well. Get what you want but I suggest getting a Pontiac, at least while you can! As for the HHR, I like them on the inside and in SS trim, but I am luke-warm on them from the outside.