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The Stelvio just came out and the Giulia sales are pretty well par for the course. Fiat is either older (out years before they hit the US) or versions of something else so they aren't really losing anything. Jeep was down some, mainly on the heels of the loss of the Patriot. Ram sales are great considering it is the oldest fullsize on the block next to the Tundra with a new one coming this year. Also looked at Ford and GM now, um, Challenger still outsold the Camaro and Buick and Cadillac seem to be on life support.

Finally it gets the turbo 2.5, sadly it won't offer a manual like the Accord Sport with it's 2.0 turbo. Still enough to make the future list thouh.

My guess is that it is an evolution of the hybrid system in the Pacifica. I am really interested in that hybrid turbo 4, instant torque. C&D had numbers on the updated ecodiesel as well and it jumps to 262 HP and around 444 pd ft of torque I believe.

They sell good here. I see tons of new RC short beds, if not I am sure GM, Ford, and Ram would have discontinued it, but they haven't for a reason.

I am not a big fan of the Titan's design and the lack of a regular cab/short bed model is annoying. The Tundra is so far behind, particularly in powertrain tech it is insane. Not to mention the last gen F-150 dash. Now, just because it is old doesn't mean it can't be modern. The Ram has been constantly updated which has kept it competitive.

SHould be good. With the updated 18 F-150 and this and a new ram coming for 19, should be really awesome. I think there are a couple japanese Fullsize trucks too, but they don't count.

Perfection

Most of the incentives i am seeing are on 17s. The vast majority of 18s are just hitting lots. The problem with the ram has been demand outstrips production capacity, an issue that will be fixed with the all new 19 model which will gain an additional factory (imho, real reason the 200/dart were killed was to make more capacity for building trucks, much like GM did in the 90s with the B-bodies). Also, the money issues are not as bad as people let on, in fact they made 2.1B profit last quarter and stock prices are on the rise.

IF the Renegade had just came out for example, you would have a point, but their sales have been happening since 14 so the YTD and monthly sales includes the Renegade ADN the patriot. 5 years ago doesn't count comparing last years sales and that is what we are talking about here. But bones a lot of companies trust. Got me curious and also neat to see they are still unning the Triton 6.8 V10!

Not saying it is, only saying WHY THEIR sales are down, nothing to do with anyone else. PERIOD. They also posted record profits last quarter, just an FYI.

They are still building the chassis cab, you can price them out as 18 models on the Ford website, looks like they killed the E-Series van off though.

Not as many. I don't think. I know they had a fullsize, but they went a while wihout one after the split with Daimler, a few years i believe. For a while they had no vans, and then just the Caravan based Cargo Van. Ram does need to branch out though. They really need a midsize truck.

Not on a Buick

You realize both the Caravan and Patriot generally sold around 10k a year EACH, right? You are trying to distort the facts. GM has not actually lost models, FCA has, big difference.

It was simply speculation and sales were similar to the aging Journey. I think they look decent. Big spoilers and sporty cues are not the main things people are looking for in mommy-mobiles.

And they haven't lost vehicles without some kind of replacement. Buick lost the Verano, but has gained the Envision for example which is an SUV and should sell better than the verano, though the sales numbers weren't that great for it last month. I wonder if it people's opinion of chinese made products causing that? I am just now seeing some local places switching over to the Transit. E Series has a long and proven record here in the states.

Not a lot of cars are the successes they once were. the Giulia and Stelvio did not replace older vehicles, neither did he Renegade or the various vans in ram really.

That is for the year I suggest you go into the forum and read the FCA part there.

Yes, just saying there are reasons not related to gloom and doom. Also, FCA's fleet sales are down 43%.

You realize they had big sellers last year they only have remnants on the lot for right now, right? Caravan and Patriot and the main main culprits for the sales drop sinc, ya know, they are both not being built any longer and have no replacements. Same with the 200 and Dart. And yes, sales were not so surprisingly down across the board. for a lot of makers and some were only up because they have added additional products.

My brother needs this for his 99 Dakota R/T Heck, would love it in the motorsports Dakota with a6 speed manual.

Thank you. And that is a real 4WD system with a real low range and it is a convertible. It is really a hell of a deal for what you get. I realy want a 2 door 18 Rubicon.

We need this here. Mitsu used to be an interesting company with interesting products. Now they are, who knows what.

That could work. Don't they still make the off-road worthy Monteros for other markets?

Get ready for the Galant Crossover, the diamante 3 row crossover, the Lancer small crossover with an Evo variant. Okay, maybe not, but I hate they called their crossover Eclipse.