surreal1272

A newer Z/28 will most certainly be lighter than the outgoing model. It would make it that much more of a world class drivers car, which it has already proven in spades.

That's good to know "Guest Wings". Now try to actually say something that doesn't make you sound like the worlds biggest hypocrite. About the Camaro, there will be the Z06 motor in the ZL1 (the given 640 HP it brings). What that means as far as a future Z/28 goes, is anyone's guess.

"But simple criticism is one thing, and repeated non-stop criticism that we have all heard literally hundreds of times from the same individual --is another completely. He is by definition, then, trolling, plain and simple." Kind of like how some here down vote what they perceive to be a negative remark because it doesn't support their non-stop PR posts disguised as objective thought. Does that sound about right (since you are the one trying to throw stones here)? And with those words, you missed my point completely. I clearly stated why I would downvote, and you ignored it. And please honor the wishes of mods and stop focusing on individuals. Especially as you reach back 8 days to respond to this post. Thanks. Who cares "how long" it took? I don't go out of my way to look at every single post here. Just came across yours and decided to respond. The amount of time since the post in question is irrelevant. You made it a point to focus on certain individuals here yet tell others not to focus on individuals. If you don't see the pure hypocrisy in your statement, then there is truly no hope for you. All I know is this. YOU don;t get to decided anything that has been brought up, especially when you have shown, time and time again, to be unable to hold yourself accountable to the same standard that you expect everyone else to have. That is the simple fact of the matter.

"But simple criticism is one thing, and repeated non-stop criticism that we have all heard literally hundreds of times from the same individual --is another completely. He is by definition, then, trolling, plain and simple." Kind of like how some here down vote what they perceive to be a negative remark because it doesn't support their non-stop PR posts disguised as objective thought. Does that sound about right (since you are the one trying to throw stones here)?

I assume you are not talking to me, as I don't see what you are talking about. That's just so "cray cray" to constantly think that you are the center of the universe.

Anyone who is so lazy that they can't even be bothered with typing the second syllable of a word (even as a joke), should be bamboo flogged in public. Must be that Ivy League grammar I keep hearing so much about.

Good to hear they have a suspect.they have linked him to 4 of the shootings...I've heard speculation on the radio that there may be copycat shooters responsible for the other shootings..who knows at this point.. I'm not on the freeways w/ my current commute across the valley, but I've been following it in the news closely... Yeah, they said weeks ago that there could have been a copy cat out there but they are still investigating this so a lot of what transpired with our shop has been kept hush hush. Certainly has made for one crazy week.

I'm sure most people here have seen the news over the last few weeks regarding the I-10 freeway shootings in Phoenix. Well, they caught the guy yesterday and it turns out that they caught him by forensically linking the ballistics to a gun that the idiot pawned at my shop (not literally mine. I just work there). AZDPS officers had been in touch with us a couple of times this week and they were gathering all of his business dealings with us to put this case together and nail the little SOB. It certainly made for a busy day at the shop and this is what I was talking about when I said I had more important things to worry about. http://www.fox10phoenix.com/arizona-news/21696347-story This was the message left by my boss after the arrest.

I simply do not care who it is (even though I do know in this case and I know it wasn't you. It was Burnt_valve_LS7). I simply have bigger fish to fry in my life than some random internet troll. If people just want to take a good site like this and turn into the same juvenile BS I see on Facebook, then I want no part of it. From people who think they know who I am to this down vote non-sense, it is just childish. It's a simple result of the same trolls who ruined one site with their non-sense and are now bringing that mess here. And yes, I realize that I contributed in some way but I am still allowed to post at certain sites while some others have brought over their ban worthy attitude over here. That is all I'm saying about this. You may now commence to calling me a hypocrite, arguing for arguments sake or whatever else floats your boat. I just simply do not care when I have much more important things to deal with.

And then someone here (who will be too much of a pussy to admit it) decided to downvote my last seven posts. You kids can have this juvenile non-sense. Let the victims play the victims and let the hypocrites be the hypocrites. I have better things to do than this middle school BS.

What's funny is that he still drops my name when I haven't said squat to him in weeks. Oh, that rent free living in another person's head.

Agreed but I upvoted that anyway.

Agreed. Way to narrow of a list and a lot of great concepts were left out. Jalopnik has never had much love for Cadillac though so it's not surprising that they excluded them even thought the Miraj concept is still awesome to this day!

I'm not disagreeing but it's just not worth sweating over in the grand scheme of things.

It truly is not worth your time Bong if you feel that strongly about it. It took me a while to understand that too but I have taken the internet equivalent of a shovel and a bag of Lyme and buried that mess in the backyard over the past few weeks.

Better solution: ban the troublemaker. Lord knows it's been done before. Funny how some call for "ignoring" yet when asked to do the same, they are oddly silent and just continue to act like nothing is wrong at all.

You are correct. Nobody from Admin has directly told me who's doing what. But, I do know that when I complained about the downvote situation a couple days ago my count stabilized. Went up a little, even. Then I posted that link about Aventador/Ford GT pricing, and he tried to deny it existed. Well. You'd think I'd peed on Henry's bones. And of course, I have his history of personal potshots, stalking, and ban history. Bottom Line: he ain't worth the trouble. And I suspect that message is sinking in amongst those whose opinions count around here. What's even more amazing is how someone automatically attacks a legit opinion about this, even though I have made it abundantly clear that I have no interest in what they have to say. Seems like they just want to argue for arguments sake. God forbid I just state a simple opinion.

Couldn't help but notice the proliferation of glass houses here. People who say that down voting is childish and so forth, are normally the ones doing the down voting. Just my two cents.

Taxpayer funded stadiums are the modern day economic trojan horses of the 21st century. They are a joke.

And for the record, being even 6th out 11, makes it "mid pack", not "at or near the bottom".

Yeah, too bad that's #6 out of a class that really only has 11 players in reality. Also, while everyone is throwing the sales figures around, here's a juicy little tidbit that nobody knows or ever hears/talks about- GM counts their service loaners as monthly sales. In other words, they're inflated. That's 6 out of 13 in reality. Why you would exclude the Subaru and the Mazda is beyond me, other than the fact that you are saying it like that to support your point, which is a bit muddled at best Frisky. Sorry. Lol, I am counting the Subaru and Mazda. 1)Toyota Camry 2)Honda Accord 3)Nissan Altima 4)Ford Fusion 5)Hyundai Sonata 6)Chevy Malibu 7)Chrysler 200 8)Kia Optima 9)VW Passat 10)Mazda 6 11)Subaru Legacy What on earth is so hard to understand about this? LOL yourself. I am counting BOTH Subarus. NO need to get pissy about it because of your beef with someone else. You want to look at it one way and I'm going to look at it another.

Yeah, too bad that's #6 out of a class that really only has 11 players in reality. Also, while everyone is throwing the sales figures around, here's a juicy little tidbit that nobody knows or ever hears/talks about- GM counts their service loaners as monthly sales. In other words, they're inflated. That's 6 out of 13 in reality. Why you would exclude the Subaru and the Mazda is beyond me, other than the fact that you are saying it like that to support your point, which is a bit muddled at best Frisky. Sorry.

I'm just going to say this about the "bottom of the barrel". It is #6 for the year so far too.

No base model mid size car starts at 200 HP. Which is why the Malibu should have. It would be #1. It's going to be 300 lbs. lighter. That's a much bigger deal than some extra HP.

No base model mid size car starts at 200 HP.