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You're right. You're right. There was a 3.0 badge on the earliest FWD Centuries.

You'd better not! For someone who keeps his car as long as you do (I'm one to talk), you should L-O-V-E the 3800. It can also help you get into that entry-level Lucerne if cost is an issue. What happened to the LaX? Are you done with that? Seriously, folks, had to go to a meeting in a conference room at the Hilton which has a circular driveway and a porte cochere. There was a Lucerne there, under the lights. I came upon it in the rear 3/4 view. It looked good! It was in that light bronze color. Light years ahead ( )of the current LeSabre, which I thought was bland beyond belief.

You are so damn right. This one says it all. It really celebrates what Buick is all about and no other slogan can be confused with it. I think it also has longevity, like Cadillac's "Standard..." tag line. Hey, BMW has something with "precision" in it. I'm not crazy about it. Too much overlap with another automaker's word craftsmanship.

And my dad. And he had a Napoleonic complex.

Holy $h!! Parenthood, to me, is...well...frightening. But that's just me. Congrats are in order! Enjoy!

Let us know. I am sure some are curious.

What is On The Road about? My cousin in Italy who is now about 28 or so raved about it. He even named his German Shepherd after a character in this book. Isn't Kerouac and his stuff kind of dour? I heard that, in real life, Kerouac was kind of a mess and that he died young. Please advise.

I think Chevy 3100, 3400 and new 3500/3900 are derivatives off the same tree. This may even include the previous 2.8 around in the late 80s that went into the inagural 88 Regal and then was replaced next year by the 3100. Buick's 3800 stands alone. It has had two derivates to my knowledge: the 3300 which lasted into the mid 90s in the Century and then, in the 80s, the 4.1 litre V6 (or 252 cu in) which in some applications had a 4 bbl carb. LOL. That larger engine made it into the LeSabres, Parks and even some Cadillacs of the early 80s. I will still see some Cads with the tiny 4.1 badge and I have to laugh. Chevy's 4.3 Vortec also stands alone. It is a sliced Chevy 350. The difference among these is that the first batch are all 60 degree engines while the latter 2 paragraphs refer to 90 degree engines. I've only owned a couple of 3800s. I certainly like the engine sound better than that of the 3400/3500/3900. On the few occasions I've driven 3300 equipped cars, those, too, have turned out to be fairly pleasing to the ear and I understand that it too is a long-lasting motor.

The 3900 - I had it in an Impala rental....competent: yes....quiet and good gas mileage, even like Chevy's previous 3.4: no

Relax, LA, buddy. While there might not be such a term, that Oakland reference you bring up is correct and the news media itself talked about "Ebonics" being adopted by the Oakland school district as an issue.Let's face it...surfers have their own words, as well as inflection, particular to their segment of society and we take pokes at it...look at "Fast Times at Ridgemont High." The movie relied on that to make it beyond hysterically funny. Then, there are ways of indicating things which are exclusively used by black people. In a college sociology class, I learned the term "deuce and a quarter" referring to the Electra 225 as coined primarily in the black, or African American, community. (Learn something new every day, for that matter). Now, have you ever heard a white person say "Walk on, child!" ? I think we have to see what side of the fence we are on: Are we chuckling at idiosyncrasies or are we being hateful? Hopefully, we are only doing the former.

Flybry: Hilarious has one L. Thanks.

I've used that term for eons and I have just passed through Indy. It means something "off the Richter scale." A bottle of cologne was once given to me as a gift. It was a Davidoff product. I've used it about 3 times. It sits there in my medicine cabinet staring at me. I prefer my Zoloft.

Like: We've had one built for you. It's a great feeling to have an Olds around you. Dislike: The power of intelligent engineering. Not your father's Oldsmobile. God..."Memory Lane Central", loved those trim 81-87 RWD Cutlass Supreme coupes (especially in Brougham and Calais/Salon form).

I was at the dealership last week. They had the Oldsmobile franchise but still do GM service. I asked about getting an Intrigue as a second car. Service advisor said that the 3.5 wasn't that good. He said the 3800 in 98 and 99 was better but they (Series II of certain years) had intake manifold problems and these could be costly. I've rented both. The 3800 feels...well...familiar. The 3500 has more HP but proportionately not as much torque. I do remember that, when punched, the 3500 put you back in your seat, though not to the extent that a 3800 SC does. It also has a nicer purr...but we know that of OHC engines. Between its short lifespan and the fact that Olds is gone, I wouldn't pop for one. Go 3800 because of the interchangeability of the divisions and availability of people to work on it.

We need to ditch the POS, don't we? :AH-HA_wink:

Translate the last line. The first thing I learned in German was "Eine gros schwarze frau" (sp) which isn't too cool but was walking by me and a German speaking grad student in Champaign Illinois.

I love to read. At least, I used to. I now read so much technical job-related stuff during the day on top of all the schooling I have had, that I make little time in my free time for more intellectual pursuits. I need to get back into it.

If you ever rent a midsize from Advantage Rent a Car, you will most likely get a 2-door Chrysler Sebring hardtop coupe instead of the Stratus 4-door which is ubiqutous in other fleets. My first impression is that this is a decent looking car. (I don't like the convertible). However, in pricing it, it is not competitive with a much more substantial purchase like a LaCrosse or Impala. Plus, for some unknown reason, the price differential between their 4 doors and the coupe is an eye-opener. Plus side: Good looks, nice instrument area, fun to drive Negative side: Price/value, C/R does not like it, not the most practical However, I voted YES. There are very few cars in this niche anymore.

Isn't there also a Broad Axe? And, aren't you from the other side of the state that would spare you from the Philly nasal? 90 miles from NYC and it's a different accent .... go figure.

Oh, I forgot: what I meant by how you "stack up" isn't how you replied - it had to do with you as a complete being (your brains, your job, your wallet, your personality, your looks, and whatever other criteria is being evaluated) but, as they would say in California, "thank you for sharing."

I may have started it, but my choice of words wasn't as "out there" as yours. Yikes.

1 Chevy (2 Olds, 1 Buick) It was a Camaro Berlinetta in metallic light blue with a 5.0 liter V8. It was the only POS from GM I have ever had. Reason: it was the only GM car I have had that wasn't purchased new or purchased new by a family member and then handed down, as were both of my Cutlass Supremes. I bought it with 34,000 miles, as a second car. The problems: that nasty puff of blue smoke, only in the morning, after oil must have seeped around the valve seals. The other was a persisent hum in the differential. I sold it with 62,000 miles, which, for me, is unheard of. I am probably more BOP attuned because of the experience with the 'maro, though I loved driving it through Topanga Canyon and other similar So Cal places.

Hey, Z, look at your sig. A "Lawn Guylander" has been westernized. But, don't lose that accent. :AH-HA_wink: But you are right, that is my rationale in acquiring clothing, though I do have to dress reasonably well 2 to 3 days of the week.

Regarding Miss T&A (with no visible cottage cheese anywhere), it would be a joy if you could ascertain you would be "in the pink" with some certainty. I think she could "cherry pick" (based on her physical attributes, though most likely not on her intellectual ones) meaning you would have to analyze how you "stack up."

Exactly.