Intrepidation

People seem to be, once again, bashing the Azera. Ok, look: it's faster than the Lucerne V8...how sad is that? It handles better than the Lucernce at all levels except CXS with magnetic ride control equiped, otherwise, as noted in the recent road test at Edmunds, it sucks for handling, and as they mentioned, it's slower than the Azera/Avalon even with the V8, demands premium fuel and gets worse mileage. What's all this about Hyundai copying styles? They get ideas from other cars, but a lotta car companies do. Pick a Toyota except maybe the newest ones, pick the current LS, previous IS, pick the Ford 500 and they all borrow/steal ideas from other cars. So bashing the Azera for that is bull$h!. Like I said, The rear end of it could be better, but it's not horrible and far better than the Avalon. The Lucerne looks nicer but isn't so hot when stacked against either cars.

I dunno about the power stuff but A/C is an otion...but if you get it that only tacks like 800 bucks (mmaybe less) onto the price tag.

Come to think of it all the gaps look tighter...

Oh now this is just sad. It's a damn commercial, get the rod out of your asses and lighten up. It's funny and clever (the dog mooning the other dogs was hilarious too). You know I didn't even think of the guy as "gay" when tinkerbell did that to him. At least Dodge is creative and puts some humor/life into their commercials. If you don't like it then switch the channel next time or get a sense of humor. Let's humor the people bitching about this for a sec and assume that the commercial was making a stereotype joke (which I didn't think it was). Why get offended over a commercial, or a stereotype? Stereotypes exist and sometimes it's fun to poke fun at them. Have you ever watched Carlos Mancia? Hilarious stuff. He pokes fun at everyone and it's funny! Still don't like it? Buy a Ford

Well damn, GM finally learned what Chrysler has already learned. Why do you think the 300, Charger, and to a lesser extent, Magnum sell like hotcakes? Not everyone likes their styling but no one will argue that they are distinctive, bold, American machines. The Camry and Accord wish they had 1/2 the balls these cars do. They create an emotional reaction. Not just "meh it's ok" but "Damn that's a sweet looking car" or even "Man that's ugly". The designs create a strong opinion about the cars and THAT (along with RWD, Hemi power, and great performance) is why they sell. Congrats GM on finally relearning the formula.

Chery wishes they could make a car that nice. You guys think red is a domestic humper? Then you haven't met Domesticated and his G6 he swares is the best car in the wold lol. Red just doesn't like many cars...at all..

You're posts are so entertaining to read In that marginaly faster G6 I assume? Probably 2 seconds faster...I bet you an SRT-4 would blow the doors off it As for the Aveo...hmm I have to agree that it's at least better looking, but I doubt it handles as well...Perhaps the redesigned Aveo handles better...gotta wait for a road test on it.

The Aztek's design was more "cohesive" if you wanna enterntain that word. But it's still uglier. The Compass at least looks OK from the side and rear...not great but not Aztek ugly. Nothing is uglier than that...unless it's from another country. 16k for the 2.4 huh? well that sounds like abetter deal than the Caliber actually...though I think the Caliber looks far better.

I do agree with that, but the budget probably went to the front end and modifying the floor plan to incorporate the hybrid system. Look how much smaller the gap is between the bumper and grill/fender/headlighs

No contest. It's a huge improvement. Even if people say it looks more like the Aspen I don't care, it looks way better than it did and better than the Aspen IMO.

Not really, the headlights are totally different and the Aspen has a more rounded shape. The front end is deffinetly differentt.

I wasn't kidding. Oh agree that it's a nice car and far better than the XJ and Avalon. But at some angles it's rear end does look a bit out of proportion. Not a bad looking car overall, but not quite perfect either.

Hurray! Dodge finally fixed that front end. IMO it was the worst one in the Dodge lineup, thismakes it look much better.

Personally I think it needs more than a new front end, but that would certainly go a long way.

I coulda sworn I replied this alread...Oh well Are you familiar with the term "living in the past" that's how I think a lot of the naysayers from the Charger community were looking at the Charrger. ALso because this car is indeed quite a departure from the original. Still most have learned that griping about door numbers is stupid and that the car indeed does the name proud, since it can perform better than the original Charger, looks good, annnd since it has some practicality will seel well and not dissappear like the original. I myself neer cared about the 4-door bit...the styling took some time to warm up to , but after sseeing them in person ands eeing the SRTR-8, I was sold. So no, it doesn't have 2 doors to be a proper muscle car, as long as it looks cool and performs. ALthough if it were a hatchback...well then that's be odd. Besides, the Charger has it's place, and to all thhose who want a munal coupe with a hemi, the Challenger will satify them.

I actually like how the new LS looks. Quite nicely done IMO

I agree, both it and the Evo look odd without their spoilers.

Hmm...crosseyed...maybe that's why it looks so odd. Better call in the surgen! I agree that if I had to choose a Japanese luxry brand Infiniti would get my vote. Real RWD performance cars that can really handle. I hope that coupe concept goes into production unchanged cuz it looked great.

Hmm...crosseyed...maybe that's why it looks so odd. Better call in the surgen! I agree that if I had to choose a Japanese luxry brand Infiniti would get my vote. Real RWD performance cars that can really handle. I hope that coupe concept goes into production unchanged cuz it looked great.

Still a small car. And since they through in a Caliber into the test, which I'm sure is bigger than the other cars, my point remains valid.

A real muscle car isn't determined by the number of doors it has. That's stupid to still be harping on the damn thing cuz it's got a couple extra doors. So by your definition all it would take to have a mucle car is a stick and 2 doors...so guess the Omni was a better muscle car? Spare me. The Charger SRT-8 has got craploads of power, badass looks IMO, great brakes and handling. That seems like the prerequisites for a good muscle car to me. So it has a couple extra doors? OMFG it's practicle for families now so Dad can convince the Mom that it's practicle for the family and still get to smoke most of the cars on the road. Heaven forbid! Get over the damn doors, jeez. I do agree about a manual tranny...having one as an option would be nice, but I hear the 5-speed autobox is quite good so at least it doesn't suck.

Holy crap that looks good! If the CTS looks as good uncovered as it does so far it'll pwn the 3 Series and IS in the looks department, probably performance too (at least the IS)

Agreed, aside from he lame Ford corporate cener stack controls I think it's a great looking interior, on par with Camry and Accord. I like the Sonta but the interior isn't nearly as nice looking (but it's nt horrible or cheap, so I'm not bashing it). The interiors of the Sonata at least are pretty good I think, my neighbor got one recently and he loves it. I saw an Azera for the first time last week...looks alright but the rear end looks too narrow thanks o the wannabe "Bangle butt" Still it looks alright..better than that PoS it replaced. I saw a Camry on the road this past weekend (first time seeing one too). It has a HUGE butt. Looks like it could generate a gravitational pull and suck smaller cars into it. I'm really dissapointed with Edmunds on this comparison test....usually they are pretty good/fair but not with this one.