GMTruckGuy74

Well, I think from my time spent in the G6 yesterday that the interior is smaller and tighter than the AURA, which is a plus for my wife (she likes smaller cars) and a negative for me (I like bigger cars). Ride-wise, I wouldn't say at this point that I noticed much of a difference between the two, but again I've been driving the AURA on and off (sharing with the wife) for the last year & a half; the G6 I spent about a total of 30 minutes between the two we test drove. I like the leather-wrapped steering wheel in the G6; my AURA has the fabric interior, so I don't have the leather-wrapped steering wheel. It was easy to drive and handle, and the pickup of the 3.5L V6 felt the same as in the AURA. I'm not "up" on the specs of the gearing ratios, so I'll assume that the 3.05 will aid in better fuel economy over the GT's 3.29? I'm curious as to what gear ratio my 2007 AURA has! One of the reasons I like this particular G6 is what many here have already stated - it has the look of the pre-'08 GT model without the price. caddycruiser - since I haven't been following Pontiacs lately, I didn't realize that the Chrome Appearance Package on the base G6 models was rare. I've seen some additional G6 V6 Sedan models there (midnight blue, for example) that also had this chrome package; they had several of the GT & GXP Street packaged models in-stock; both the wife and I agreed in our opinion it wasn't the best looking in the styling department (mainly due to the enormous front grilles). As I spend more time in the G6, I'll post comparisons with the AURA (especially since the AURA is my daily driver now until November, 2009). caddycruiser, I replied to your e-mail (sorry it was sent late). smallchevy, life is a balance and in due time I shall have another GMC to call my own :AH-HA_wink: Patience is one of my virtues! gm4life, the financial hit to our bank account when refueling the Envoy was the main motivator for the wife to "dump" it before the lease termination in mid-August. Not that filling the AURA up is such a great deal, but it goes longer and gets better mileage when compared to the Envoy. Yes, caddycruiser and I (my wife) both purchased Diamond White Tricoat colored G6's; his is a GT Coupe, where my wife's is a base V6 Sedan. I don't know if they'll ever be together for a picture, because it's the wife's car and not mine and I likely will not be left with it over the AURA. It is a great feeling to see Pontiac gaining sales, and the dealership where we're buying from was busy selling Pontiacs and GMCs that day (no one was there for a Buick while we were there ). And for many years I've been a Pontiac fan, so it's great returning to a loved brand. Better daytime pictures will be taken tomorrow (as long as it's not raining), and posted as soon as I can get them downloaded from the camera.

1. Two (2001 Sonoma, 2005 Envoy; both leased) 2. Yes (assuming gas prices are not spiraling out of control still and new options are explored <i.e. Denali XT :AH-HA_wink: >) That's a shame, seeing as how you're such a Pontiac fan and the fact that GMC & Pontiac have had a long-time affair together

Well, the fact the G6 had 0% interest and the Vibe would have a minimum of 5.9% was the biggest piece of ammo in my arsenal. That she really wanted heated seats in her new car (the one option she insisted on having), which the Vibe doesn't offer, also helped to seal the deal. Additionally, the remote start with extended range (200 feet vs. 30 feet), the chrome package (she really likes the G6's chrome rims), the interior design being better in the G6 than in the Vibe (at least in our opinion; the Vibe GT is too basic for a $22k car), plus the fact that she could get a color other than black (all that's available in the Vibe) - all aided in getting her to realize that the G6 was the better deal and offered more bang for her buck. In reality, our credit is not horrible, but is also not great. Being that she's been in good standing with GMAC for the last 8 years, we kinda knew that GMAC would approve the loan without problems - and they did (she got a courtesy call today from our salesman letting us know). In the end, she's very happy and has been telling everyone at her job today about her new "Pontiac" (all those damn import humpers!! ). As for the color, initially she wasn't all gaa-gaa about it, preferring the other new-for-2008 color, Performance Red. They didn't have many G6 sedans in that color available (just one, a 1SV Special Value Sedan, and the rest were coupes & convertibles), and since we have a blue AURA she can't have another blue car in the house Once I told her that the White Diamond Tricoat was originally a Cadillac and Oldsmobile Aurora color (she's always liked the Aurora), she began to see the WD in a different way (that is, being more upscale). She was turned off by the regular White they had, saying it was too generic. The car was recently delivered, and as such was covered in road-transit (carrier) dust, grime, and bugs. She can't wait to see it all shined up. I told her that since this car is being financed, I'll clean it again next weekend and wax it to retain that shine throughout the summer months (and many more car washes). All in all, I'm glad she stayed with GM and I'm happy for us/her to be in a Pontiac again (she absolutely loved her 2000 Grand Prix GT sedan that we leased from 2000-2003). I've been a long-time Pontiac fan, and owe it to my mom and her then-brand new 1983 Pontiac Grand Prix LJ (which is what I learned to drive on). I've personally owned a '95 Trans Am T-top coupe and a '99 Grand Am GT1 sedan, and drove the '00 GP on many occasions (it was my love of the 1995 Pontiac 300 GPX concept that turned into a passion for the '97 GP that inspired her her to get the '00 GP). At least my driveway remains all GM yet again. Delivery is in about 12 hours... she can't wait, and I'm excited for her too, but unfortunately I lose the GMC Envoy in the process

If you've been following caddycruiser's thread about his own car buying experiences, you've seen me mention that my wife has also been looking to get out of our Envoy lease (a month & a half early from the termination date, thanks to a GMAC Pull Ahead offer) for a much more economical car choice. Witht he 0% for 72 months deal (which we need to stay in the affordable range), she was motivated to do something by this weekend. Her choice? A 2008 Pontiac G6 V6 Sedan in White Diamond Tricoat and Taupe Leather interior. Here are some <crappy> shots of it at night, as we were leaving the dealership: The window sticker: It was manufactured this month (June '08) and had just 3 miles on the odometer (5 or 6 at the end of our test drive). It literally just came off the carrier within the past week! The otehr G6 (4cyl) she test drove was the same way (door jamb sticker said 06/08, and it too had 3 miles on the odo; btw, she wasn't happy with the 2.4l Ecotec engine and wanted the V6, which I told her she'd want anyway). Our salesman was a funny/goofy guy - he started about a month ago and this was his first actual sale. He said he wished he had brought his digital camera with him to take a picture; I had mine, so I offered (and now have to bring him a cipy at delivery on Saturday, per his request ). Here's the picture, with my ever-so-happy-looking wife ( ): (If she finds out I posted that, she's gonna kill me!!!) The car is equipped with the Chrome Appearance Package, which the factory puts on the chrome door handles and Chrometech rims; the dealer needs to install the upper chrome grilles, the chrome door sills, and chrome exhaust tip still. We're taking delivery on Saturday morning. More and better pictures of this beautiful colored car will be posted sometime Sunday. Derek - yup, we've got cousin cars now!!! Who else here in C&Gland will join this new family???

I'm attaching some pictures of panel trucks I saw recently (Father's Day weekend) in Macungie (PA) Memorial Park at the ATHS (Antique Truck Historical Society) annual truck show. The fourth one was not at the show, but was originally a Civil Defense truck purchased by a fire dept and repainted red.

You beat me to it! I was too busy scratching off lottery tickets to try to win money to buy your Caddy. Alas, no luck Yes, my wife liked the G6 Sedan very much. She started off driving the regular sedan (4cyl) that was loaded up with leather and the preferred convenience package, but she really didn't like how the 4cyl "got up and went" (she last had a 4cyl engine in her '92 Mercury Topaz, that she her mom gave her in '96 and got rid of in '98 for my '92 Cavalier Z24 coupe). Its been over 10 years of nothing but V6 power for her!!! She found a nicely equipped White Diamond Tricoat G6 V6 Sedan that she fell for and we're going for it. Instead of stealing caddycruiser's thunder from his own G6 purchase (and continue 'ing his thread), I'll make a new post in the Lounge for those interested. Anyone that wishes to make a a small or large donation for me to buy caddycruiser's Fleetwood, please PM me for my home address :AH-HA_wink:

The funny thing is the dealer we're going to has three flavors of G6 sedans, ALL in White Diamond Tricoat, for us to consider: #1 - 4cyl @ MSRP $24,550 #2 - V6 @ MSRP $24,570 #3 - GT @ MSRP $27,510 (I know the GT is out of the question price-wise, but I just love the 18" rims that are on it and optional on the GT trim <includes Stabilitrak too>) I told her the same thing about WD that you're sales lady told you - it was an exclusive Caddy color. I've seen this color on the G6 Sedan with the Taupe interior in person and it is sharp and luxurious looking. Hopefully she'll like it (she's never had a white car - in any shade - before, so that will help sell it). Here's the one I've seen at my local BPG dealer before they closed recently: I'll post an update tonight when we get home.

Congrats on going with the new car - you won't regret driving something new and more up-to-date than what you've been use to. Sorry about the front plate mate - good ol' Jersey laws for you!!! Well, we're going to a Pontiac dealer tonight to test drive the G6 Sedan. I played around last night with the concept of getting her the G6 Convertible, but the ones out there all sticker above $30k and thats putting it out of our desired price range. The dealer we're going to has a G6 Sedan (4cyl Ecotec) in White Diamond Metallic with Taupe Leather (heated seats & remote start are the big options she really wants, outside of an AUX INPUT JACK to play her iPod). If the numbers I've played with stay close to what the dealer figures are, and she likes the G6, then we may be the owners of a new G6 Sedan too by the weekend. Cousins - all the way! Now about the Fleetwood...

Well, running some numbers tonight has shown my wife that it may be more beneficial to go with a G6 GT Sedan with 0% interest (or even just a V6-equipped sedan with leather) than going for a Malibu or Vibe GT with 5.9% interest. Of course she needs to drive one first to see if she even likes the G6, and we plan to do this tomorrow night. If she likes it enough to do the deal, and GM adds the Vibe GT to it's incentives after Monday, she'll kill me by running me over with the G6

Hey there pal, just because money comes easily to you and I don't have a pot to pi$$ in ( ), don't ruin my dreams of owning a clean and well-cared for Fleetwood!!! caddycruiser will fall even more in love with the G6 Coupe tomorrow, become desparate to sell the Fleetwood to get his new car by the end of the day, and will find it in his heart to accept my scraping-up-the-pennies offer (I know, keep dreaming Roger!!! ).

$2,000 cash is not out of the questionfor me, if you're serious. I have a wonderful garage space that needs a new tenant since December when the SKY left. You know that the car will be loved, it will never be mistreated (aka donk'd), it will be shown at many, many, many car shows/cruises in the southern NJ area, and my 2 y-o son will absolutely love the thing. Let me know if you're serious about my offer; it would only take me a day or two to arrange to get the cash. Go for the G6 Coupe. I love the all-new Malibu and such, but GM doesn't make that many coupes anymore. The G6 Coupe, even with its flaws, is still a great car. You're at that time in life where you can enjoy a two-door vehicle; I'd love for my wife to get the G6 convertible, but with kids and family hauling needs, it just isn't in the cards. However you can enjoy the car for teh next 3 years, and if you need it then, teh Malibu (or other family sedan) will be waiting for you. If you can handle the payments, go for the new car. You deserve it!

You need the G6 Coupe - there, happy!?!? I like the G6 coupes a lot, though I would rather have the G6 Convertible myself (don't know how much I'd use the top down, but the car looks awesome when all four windows are down and there's no pillar in the way (sorry everyone, I'm having a Sixty8 moment!!!). Before my local BPG dealership closed, they had an awesome G6 V6 sedan in the White Diamond Metallica and Taupe Leather interior. What a great color combination. I've been searching 4cyl G6's for the wife (not to many out there), and I agree with you in the fact too many Pontiac dealers order the Ebony interior. We're going out tomorrow to test drive the G6 sedan to see if my wife likes it. I told her to consider the AURA too, as they qualify for the 0% financing. I inquired about a loaded HHR LT, but she said she can't get over the styling to want one. Typically we'd be leasing the new car too, but with her 64-mile roundtrip commute, we'd be paying about the same monthly payment on a lease (with 20k miles) as we would just owning the darn thing. Good luck thinking over the G6 Coupe deal tonight, and you could have the Caddy sold tomorrow morning if you'd take a $2,000 cash offer from me :AH-HA_wink:

Well, they've been filming in Princeton the last two days, in and around the Princeton University campus. My wife works outside of Princeton & on her lunch break, her & three co-workers went out there to see what they could see. No cars sited, but she called to report that there were two large tractor trailers with their loading ramps extended out. She did get to see Shia LeBouf for about 5 seconds, as he walked out of a building, waved to the crowd, and went into his trailer. They should be in Princetone again tomorrow (Thursday, 6/26). If I could get out there, I would (maybe Friday if they're still shooting there). She said there is a blog report of a Saturn Astra (silver; maybe the 5-door I posted above) that was crashed into a utility pole on Washington Street.

The wife and I discussed the Ford Fusion SE with Sport Appearance Package yesterday... we came to the conclusion that while the Sport Appearance Package adds more flair to the Fusion, and the 0% interest for 60 months is a great benefit, the car itself is not really a standout and gives off a bit of the "boring" attitude I find with the Camry and Accord (and my 2004 Malibu LT). Seeing as how the G6 has the 0% for 72 months offer, she said she'd test drive one this week just to "see what it's like". She likes the VUE out of everything, and it's in the 72-hour sale - BUT, the gas mileage would be against us with her 5 day, 320 mile commute to work routine (not considering weekend usage + other driving needs). I'm still waiting until next week, hoping that the 4th of July incentives extend to the Vibe for her. caddycruiser, I really want your Fleetwood but until the wife gets her new car and my paychecks start again (July; this part of teaching sucks), we have no cash to our name right now and I got the lecture about spending money we don't have AGAIN. Please keep me in mind if it doesn't sell anytime soon :AH-HA_wink:

Let's not forget his gift to automotive fans in the movie CARS (Fillmore):

Wow... 0% for 72 months... that could definitely have me and the wife returning the Envoy for a new 2009 Pontiac Vibe GT (if it's included in the sale) this weekend. The GM Supplier price plus the extra $500 because we're buying over leasing, plus the $1,000 GM Supplier bonus cash, and I think my wife would be eligible for the College Grad $500 bucks (according to the link to the website PCS posted in aother thread, which I need to verify and quickly) - that $2,000 total cash incetive plus the 0% will have us ready to sign on the dotted line ASAP.

Well, I just asked her about the G6 GT sedan and if she would consider it, and her response was "is it a 4 cylinder?". Arrggghhh!!! She thinks anything other than a 4cyl will automatically be a gas guzzler. And she has been driving the AURA (XE/3.5l V6) daily for the last 2 months and she knows that the gas mileage has been decent (avg 26 MPG, range of 325+ miles). But she's been brainwashed by her coworkers that drive little Toyotas that if your car has anything other than a 4cyl engine, you alone are destroying the planet So the GT model is out, and showing her the brochure I have of the interior caused her to say "Malibu, Vibe, or Fusion please". Even more incentive for me to find some extra cash to buy Derek's Fleetwood, drive to her job, and piss off her coworkers with my gas guzzling, battleship-sized tank of a car :AH-HA_wink:

Incentives will be the key deciding factor when making the wife's purchase. As of now, we can get 0% financing up to 5 years on the Ford Fusion; outside of the GM Supplier Pricing discount & GM Supplier + Pull-Ahead incentive, along with the one final Envoy lease payment waived, the '08 Malibu and '09 Vibe offer NADA, zip, zilch, nuttin. I'm hoping that GM & Ford want to move some actual dealer inventory for the 4th of July holiday and offer additional great incentives, like 0% financing for 60 months and some cash rebates <wishful thinking, I'm sure>. We're that ready to buy (well, once she decides on the car she wants!!! ) if the incentives are good. Derek, you're not alone in wanting some incentives to help you make your purchase

So far we've driven the 2009 Pontiac Vibe GT FWD, the 2008 Ford Focus SES sedan, and the 2008 Ford Fusion SE 4cyl. We tried to go to the Chevy dealer last night, but they had closed at 6PM (we were two doors down at the still open Ford dealer right before). We did look at and sit in some unlocked 2008 Malibu's, including the LS, 1LT, and LTZ packaged models. The wife likes the LTZ interior the best, but not the MSRP! So we still need to try out a Malibu, and I've had my eye on a 2008 Pontiac G6 GT sedan in Performance Red for the last two months at a small, local Pontiac dealer; maybe I'll see if she's willing to test drive a G6 (with the 3.5L V6). The Focus is off the list, the Vibe is still her favorite, we don't like the SE model Fusion - however, they have a SE with a Sport Appearance Package that she does like and it addresses some of the issues she had with the regular SE verison. Today at the All-GM Nationals show in Carlisle, Chevy offered test drives and I took out the 2LT 4cyl Malibu. While I prefer the 3.5L V6 in my AURA better, the 2.4L 4cyl was decent (now it's up to teh wife to see for herself since she didn't go with me today). She likes the Vibe GT's performance and price <$21k>; I'd rather spend a little more and get a little bit bigger car with nicer features (Fusion SE Sport Appearance <$22k> or Malibu 2LT <$24k>). And I haven't even factored in the G6 GT sedan yet to the mix!!! Derek, what's wrong with the Fleetwood (if anything)? Does it need any work, cosmetic, mechanical, etc? Feel free to PM this info if you don;t want to post it out here in the public's view. I saw at Carlisle today a beautiful dark cherry FTW Brougham and I couldn't stop thinking about your car being available for sale. I'm not making any promises, but you know how much I've always wanted one (look at all the PM's I've sent you over the last year alone on local ones I've found for sale!) and seeing as how the wife will be getting her new car soon, maybe I can play with some figures to see if I have anyway possible to buy your Caddy. It would be garage kept and used for family trips and anytime I want to drive a tank. The fact my dad agreed with me today that the FTW is a beautiful "tank of a car" when the FTW drove by us, and the uncanny coincidence that I was surrounded by three - yes, three! - FTW's while out last weekend on Father's Day, maybe it's a sign? The FTW does run on regular gas, right???

You shouldn't have - the weather was sunny with clear, blue skies and little white puffy clouds (some even looked like bunnies! ), I will try to post some pictures soon, once I've had the chance to download my camera.

Those are some B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L trucks guys. Needless to say I am very jealous that I can't afford the payment AND gas costs on one for myself at this time Best of luck to you both with your great looking GMC Sierra "All Terrains"!!!

Well, even with high gas prices I guess if this is GM's plan, I'll have to find a way out of my AURA lease and get a new GMC while I can. Fire sale pricing FTW!!! Well, I think I'm SOMEBODY and I will miss it

I really like my 2005 GMC Envoy SLT 4WD. It rides really nice and has great power with the Atlas 4200 I6. If GM would have fully upgraded the interior when they did the little changes to the exterior back in 2006, it may have helped. Fuel economy when it's a daily driver isn't great - I get anywhere from 14-16 MPG in city driving, and anywhere from 18-22 MPG on the highway. I find it to be comfortable, roomy, and spacious enough for my needs. Of course it will be leaving the fleet soon, as the lease is up in August and we can get out now with GMAC's pull ahead. It's the wife's turn to get the new vehicle, and she wants a smaller, fuel efficient car as her daily driver. So I'll be without a truck again, at least until November of 2009 (or possibly earlier), when the AURA lease is up. Hopefull the 2010 GM trucks will have some changes to get better fuel economy and GM works it's magic so I can get back behind the wheel of a truck.

BOY ain't that the truth! It's always poor GMC that gets named as the brand to cut. Why not Chevy trucks? GMCs could pickup those sales and it would give Buick-Pontiac-GMC dealerships a boost in sales. Of course we can't think of good ol' Chevy losing it's trucks, now can we? Funny thing, just a couple of months ago GMC was the one brand that was bringing in the dough for GM. How quickly those who don't favor trucks here forget that little tidbit of knowledge. :AH-HA_wink: GM trucks as a whole are going to be cut back while gas prices continue to surge. That doesn't mean that the person who absolutely needs a truck for towing or work purposes is going to go out and buy a compact car to tow his heavy duty trailer with, now does it? No, that buyer will still need a real truck and his needs will still need to be met. Those that have purchased a pickup or SUV for primarily family hauling are going to no longer consider a truck, and that fad for the last decade & a half is finally coming to a close. Of course trucks/SUVs being the cash cow for GM, now we get to watch how GM continues to survive without those sales dollars. In reality, GM will be looking at the dealer body that will be the easist to close. We all know that this is the biggest hurdle to face when closing a brand (remember Oldsmobile anyone?). Saab has the fewest dealers in the US, probably followed closely by Saturn. Saturn's sales & service records will aid in keeping them on the other side of the chopping block, maybe. Pontiac sales are not hot, nor are Buick - but as mentioned a zillion times already, Buick sales in China will keep that brand alive. So maybe it would be easy just to kill one brand without closing a whole dealership. Could we be seeing the Buick-GMC sales channel on the horizon?

Thank you! I'll check it out over the next week when I'm off and have some free time at home.