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And last night, a four-door 72 LeMans.

Just got thru seeing three cars we named off in the "may never see again" post: -the "box Fox" T-bird -1st gen Celica GT fastback -M-body Chrysler coupe (LeBaron, maybe, I have no idea)

LOL, all Phoenixes are X-bodies....the front-drive version just sucks so badly, one forgets how good the rear-drive version really was.

Most AMCs are done for....Javelin, Hornet, Amabassador, Matador, Sprint, Spirit, you name it, it's outta here.

It's not BMW's fault GM isn't building a Riviera or Eldorado. GM seems really convinced that an SUV or four-door sedan is supposed to be in every garage. Buick and Caddy's foreign competitors all pack a four-place two-door. They could easily make one, just choose not to.

Prety hard to find, but I see those (and their Century twins) every now and again....

While that's a whole different chassis, that should definitely happen. And I would love to see a G6 Turbo with a 2.8 HF. No one would laugh at the G6 then.

And then there's this: The Rover Vitesse.

He he he....I suspect that would be more frustrating than anything...heh. A Sunset night would be, since it barely moves, but Crenshaw ain't that bad.

They would need a Saab-exclusive architecture, like how Caddy has Sigma.

You guys are thinking way too North American, forgetting that the Delta is a world chassis. Surely this would come to great use in a WRC Astra, and the Cobalt would basically be using the same running gear. The AWD turbo Astra/Cobalt could be a cult classic also. But one would not want it come out with 300 horses if the Mitsu is up to 400. I miss Nissan and Ford being in this segment too.

A few U-body minivans last night. Trans Sport and Silhouette parked one behind the other....then some nondescript one flying down the street 30 minutes later.

I had voted Startus coupe based on looks and being different, but I forgot that V-6 models used that 2.7L sludge machine.... So unfortunately, the Accord is the most bulletproof.

Two different universes. The Seville was still a big car...it was only a compact in the fact that the Americans were trying to start downsizing. Not to mention it was clearly a luxury and Cadillac wasn't even thinking of Mercedes yet, let alone BMW. Don't know how I would have felt about a 70's Benz back then, but these days I find them boring and not that pretty (of course I'm thinking from a customizer's point of view) The 5-series of that time period may have a BMW intermediate (evenabig car with the 7 yet to be created), but they had yet to become one of America's tastemakers in size or luxury, so that was basically an expensive European small car to non-enthusiasts. I couldn't imagine being my age now in the 70s, knowing what would get ready to happen for the next 30 years. I suppose the Seville would have been my choice, as that's also among cars I like today....

I was being sarcastic.

More: -the old notchback Vega sedan -Plymouth Arrow Jet -most of those 70s Dodge Colts (it's funny how some were compacts and others were intermediates, but they were all Dodge Colts) -Pontiac T1000 (as it is, I don't see many Chevettes, but the Pontiac version seems long gone) -Maserati Biturbo -the last-gen 510 and first-gen Stanza -Datsun 610 (a hatch whose profile was kinda the prototype of most of today's 3-doors)

How are you supposed to get to the engine to work on it then, the interior?

Yep, those, plus those really heavy looking C-body 2-doors that had the rear quarter window encased in the vinyl top, kinda like the Coupe de ville's window, only extended further back

Don't even get me started on cars I've never seen in person a day in my life.

It's packaging a car right IMO. I could easily give two craps about front-drive, small engine, or the looks, if a decent tranny was thrown in a lot of these cars. Can a V-6 get a stick, or at least a shiftable auto? Does it have to be a pedestrian conventional auto ALL the time? decent looking and decent sized wheels (and wheel covers for the steelies) would be grand too. Those two things go a long way....

The more adventurous of you should come into Los Angeles and attempt to tackle Crenshaw or the Sunset Strip on a weekend.

Can't believe I forgot to point out that Mazda RX-4 I saw earlier this week.

There were cars I used to see tons of when I was a kid, many of which have basically disappeared. Plenty of cars have been noted in my Car Spotting posts that I had missed for a good while, but there are sadly some that are pretty much gone forever. I mean, I can't remember the last time I've seen a: -Dodge Polara -77 Chrysler New Yorker like my grandpa had -B- or C-body Chrysler wagon -Fury or Coronet like the cops used to drive. -early 70s Charger or Satellite (it's like Chryslers just die off or something) -Oldsmobile Firenza (H or J-body) -pre-80 Buick Estate Wagon -first-gen Celica fastback -Audi Fox -first-gen Audi 4000 -Audi GT Coupe -some of those weirder-greenhoused 70s B and C-body BOP coupes -Buick Special -U-boat Ford that wasn't a Thunderbird. -Olds Omega One of these may be named off in Car Spotting 2-mar-roe!! But it's been a long time....

Well, Acura kinda IS. The name was created with North America in mind, back when Honda felt no one would buy into big or luxury Japanese cars. Same reason the other two names were created, but Lexus was worldwide, while Acura was North American only (Infiniti's cars initially only sold in three markets that I've ever seen evidence of, though the G20 was Nissan Primera in Europe...it's worldwide now, however.)

I don't believe in the least that Barracudas aren't GTs. Hell, Barracuda was the first pony car. And a pony car to me is when a GT is created from the chassis of a volume compact, just slightly more stripped and butched up. That was just me addressing where people kept saying "that's not a GT, that's a muscle car"....grand touring car is asegment, sports coupe is a segment, minivan is a segment, subcompact SUV is a segment, muscle car is not. Anything with a murderous engine can be a muscle car. It doesn't have to be American-branded with a pushrod V-8 to be a muscle car. But again, IMO "muscle car" is not a segment, it's an era, or simply, a slang term.