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question is when are they gonna retool for the new body type. the impala will be made till 2013, lets assume model year so through mid-2012. That only leaves a few short months till the and the new FWD replacement will begin in early 2013. with another vehicle starting in 2010, is it only going to have a short run till the 2013 retool?

very true, but since there hasn't been any news about closing down the car plant not making Zeta, it can be implied that it will either continue to make the W-body or be retooled. Since there hasn't been any retooling news and money is tight, chances are, they will continue to make the W-body also, from the other article I posted, timelines make it sound like the Impala will continue till 2013 and will then be replaced by another FWD. That doesn't leave much time for the plant to be retooled

http://money.canoe.ca/News/Other/2008/07/29/6295886-sun.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews...20080728?rpc=44 So it sounds like the W-Body impala will be hanging around for another 5-6 years, unless they plan retool the Plant for EPII which there has been no mention of that I've seen

from what I've been told from a salaried employee, it will include many different area's, including the manufacturing area

this might just be a coincidence, but has anybody else noticed that if you sound out OSM , it sounds a like awesome but with an o instead of an a?

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2008-0...sler-cuts_N.htm

its amazing how dropping "could be" has such an impact

CNN.com is streaming it, watching right now

apples & oranges. some people like the look/feel of a muscle car over that of a sports car. not too mention the nostalgia, heritage of the new Camaro.

ya, they are out, been in production since may I think. actually saw one the other day while I was on my way to visit my buddy who works at Brampton.

i like the back of the current TL but I find the front extremely boring. from the profile, I'm not sure if i'll like the 09 but since we only have the front pic to go on, I'm going to have vote for the 09

I don't like it now, but just like the Cobalt name, which I also didn't like at the beginning, I'm sure it'll grow on me. Right now it it makes me think of some MINI-sized import.

given its low production numbers, a blown v8 Z28 wouldn't have much effect on the CAFE number would it? Since the engine and most of the car (except maybe suspension and a few bits here and there) are off the shelf. So in the grand scheme of things, would killing the Z28 really have that much effect on fuel economy and cost numbers?

in GM HQ working with renewed urgency?

usually i'd agree, but in this case I'm with the CAW. GM bargained in bad faith and deserve to be penalized severely

did they just take Accord headlights and mount them on this car?

word. while the average European might have a negative opinion of Chevy (not saying they do, this is just for arguments sake), anybody who's actually considering buying one KNOWS its a Chevy, and I think its fair to say the average person would also know its a Chevy

not only are there signs, but lets not forget the non-disclosure agreement everybody has to sign just so they can walk into the plant, let alone work there.

it wasn't so much superceded by NAFTA as chunks of it went against WTO rules so the law was tossed or at least ignorned

I'd suggest that for any car. after a year, no-season's suck ass in winter.

there goes their marketing claim that all their vehicle's come with AWD

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/30/toyota-...ra-in-baja-500/ bet the exec's in Japan aren't too happy about this.

right. this has all to do with the supply of oil and nothing to do with speculators driving up the cost, lack of refining capacity. and it sure has nothing to do with the simple mechanism that since oil is traded in USD, the lower it goes, the higher oil prices go. fact is, there is tons of oil, so supply of crude is far from the problem

normally I'd agree with you, but not this time. Its not like the contract was agreed to years before gas prices started skyrocketing, and you sure don't decide to close a number of plants in a day or two. Which means GM was negotiating in bad faith which leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. That says a lot for me because I'm 99.9% always on GM's side when it comes to GM-union issues.