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No dealership network. They will be direct to customer sales, like Tesla and Rivian.

Looking over their reservation process, that is not the case.

When was the last time you priced something at $5.90 and that wasn't' considered "around $6.00"? Let's be honest, it's a couple years out and plenty of things could change. Stating it will be "around" $60,000 is much safer and likely more accurate than saying "under", when we all know how auto manufacturers do things. What was the last EV that actually same out spot on for their press released price when they show/announce it 2+ years out? Has there been any? Where'd you see this?

@smk4565, weren't you dead-set on Elon keeping his word on a $25k vehicle?

AFTER tax incentives. Don't Elon Musk this and advertise the price with savings built into that. They actually start around $60,000.

I LOVE these old-school-style Casios/Armitrons!

Because of the Astros, they now allow electronic communication between pitcher/catcher for calling pitches, PitchCom. Off all the bad things covid brought upon us, the Astros not having to face live crowds after getting caught cheating, is by far the worst.

I'm fine with an attempt to steal signs. That is part of baseball. My issue is the way they went about it with cameras, video, electronics on player(s). Steal signs with your eyeballs, that's fair. That's part of the game. Putting a camera in centerfield and signaling to the batter what's coming is not fair nor legal. I know it means nothing, but it's just a gut feeling. It just REALLY feels like he was the one betting on baseball and his translator took the fall. Ohtani is just too internationally big for MLB to let him get caught and ban him. He has to be the #1 money-maker for the league on an individual basis, by a long shot.

Like Ohtani? His "translator" "stole" from him. I would need to see concrete proof to convince me MLB just didn't want this story buried to keep their golden boy playing. Just for the record, I believe the wording was "lifetime ban". I wouldn't doubt if they eventually put him in.

I would still like a Lightning. One day these EVs will be more affordable for us regular folk.

It's funny, they raise the monthly lease payment ~$220/mo but they'll give you a free $1300 charger + install. The additional $8000 over 36 months waaaay more than pays for the charger and install.

Thank you! Yesterday, the 30th. Thank you!

The EQB isn't bad, because it's just a GLB Class with a solid grille. It wasn't a ground-up EV. It isn't necessarily attractive, but it also isn't ugly, imo. The others, real, real ugly.

So after only seeing a few Merc EQ-vehicles over the last handful of months. Just yesterday and today I've managed to see an EQB SUV, EQE Sedan, EQS Sedan and an EQS SUV. Also, they were all black. Just seems to odd that all of a sudden I see these in the span of basically 24hours. All of them were in motion so I couldn't grab a picture of them. Plus, they're all really ugly so it's no loss to not have to see any of them, hahaha.

I did see that already, actually. It may be worth stopping at my local Ford dealership and seeing what the numbers are like. I'm sure they will be more than I am comfortable with, but it wouldn't hurt to talk to somebody. Their current Lightning XLT lease is $335/mo. I'm not sure how I feel about the small battery though, but the 2024's do have a heat pump so it makes me feel better about the winter. If this is the new lease deal, $550 is out of the question.

Absolutely agree. If one thing is worn out, it's stressing everything else out, too. The CarFax said this dealership has already replaced both front wheel bearings (along with the front brake rotors and pads), FWIW.

So my wife and I went and drove it Saturday. It has a blown out driver front shock. I went under and looked at it after driving and heading a clunk/rattle sound coming from the driver's front end. you could see the shock coated in grease/grim and I looked at the passenger side to compare, and it was clean and dry. I brought it up to them and he's going to take that information to his GM and see what they can do or if they'll do anything. I stated that alone is a deal breaker. I will not buy something needing fairly basic maintenance to get to to just drive as it should. I know it's used but I'm not buying a project from an individual. It should at least drive the way it is supposed to. I'd be more understandable if interior things didn't work or whatnot, but not the suspension/driveline. On the positive side though, the inside was as clean as the outside. It honestly looked near-new. There weren't scratches or scuffs where elbows, fingers, or rings may routinely encounter. Everything other than that front shock seemed to operate just as they should. He's supposed to get back to me today and we will go from there.

I've caught a handful out in the wild. I'll be honest, they certainly are eye-catching. They're hideous, but do catch the eye. It honestly sucks, because it's a pretty awesome vehicle otherwise. Had it not had the stupid styling, which also leads to the finger-cutting-off-abilities, I'd want one. They look SO bad though.

This is exactly my thoughts. It isn't so much that I need something this large, but that it fits what I need/want but it's also just a damn good price. I can't find anything remotely comparable that has this service records, NOT in an accident, or even this "low" of miles. I think that's working for me with this specific vehicle is the location. It's in a town much smaller than my own, further away from St Louis. Their market of consumers is smaller and probably just need to move it. I understand the fuel economy costs, but If I could afford something with significantly improved fuel economy, it'll cost a heck of a lot more in price alone, negating some 5mpg improvement. I think I'm going to talk to them Saturday and see what can be done price-wise. I think 19k is more than I'd be comfortable with with this many miles, but If they want to move it bad enough (on the last weekend of the month AND quarter) and would accept 17-17,5 I think I'd buy it.

I'm not really considering a high mileage German-anything. The only vehicles I'd consider with this many miles are the American trucks and their corresponding full-size SUVs. They're the only ones consistently known to achieve 200k miles with relatively minimal maintenance. No, I'm really not stuck on a BOF SUV. I just hate most all of the CUVs that are 3-rows like the Traverses and Highlanders of the world. They do so little for me, I'd rather have my too-small-for-family MKC than spend money on them.

I don't think I would have an issue with it. We really don't get much crappy winter weather, but when we do, it's really crappy. I don't think I'd mind the RWD with them being heavy, low center of gravity, and even weight distribution. Decent snow tires would be sufficient but, I'd rather just not spend the $1000-1500 on tires/tires & wheels. Being realistic, I'd just rock the all-seasons/no-seasons if this were something I'd buy.

Her drive is 3 miles to the salon and mine is 1 mile to the bus stop. But, she drives to her parents' store a couple days a week that's about 25 miles away. Leaving our town to go anywhere with a Home Depot, Target, Petco, etc. is 20 miles one way or 30 miles in another way(the way towards her parents' store). so that's really where the bulk of our miles come from, because our drives to work are next to nothing. I guess I should also add that our daughter's doctor is near my in-law's store, as they watch her most days mon-fri anyway. I thought I averaged right at 12k miles/yr, but the maths must have changed over the last couple years. I've owned my MKC for right at 5.5 years and I've put 53,262 miles on it in that time. 9684 miles/yr over the last 5.5 years. I could have sworn I was driving 12k/yr when I had my Escape and Focus and just assumed it hadn't changed. FWIW, this is the Expedition that also caught my eye. 1 owner and oil changes every 5k, almost spot on. This is 5 hours away though. https://www.hamblockford.com/used/Ford/2017-Ford-Expedition-acb17645ac18587ccec3bbd514061849.htm

$299 with very low operating costs would be great but I am not seeing $299 for an EV9. $300 and less for a payment is where I would be comfortable right now. My MKC was $252/mo. I know that's very little for a vehicle, hence why I'm not really shopping new or anything expensive, at all. I guess the base model RWD is under $300. The Light RWD Long range is, as well. I'm just not sure how I feel about RWD with our occasional shty winters.

Thank you! It isn't gone. The one that is gone is the Carmax or Carvana Honda Pilot Drew posted. Yeah, I just have a feeling that won't happen for quite a few years. Unless I get a pretty big pay raise, I couldn't justify a 60k truck. Even if I were to save up, say 30k with trade in of my Lincoln, I couldn't just drop 30k and still borrow 30k for such a depreciating asset.

Yeah, I own my MKC. Trade is is something like 11-12k. It's also rated the same as the Pilot's 18/26 mpg. See, I don't think there are many major repairs unless the cam phasers or timing chain goes bad. I could be very wrong, but don't F150's run forever as long as they aren't neglected? "Least worst" is terms I can understand with crossovers. That makes the most sense then. I just don't want something that I don't like at all and I feel like that's just most every crossover from "mainstream" brands. I've also been keeping an eye on Q7's with either the s/c V6 or turbo v6. Somebody is already buying it, hahaha Yeah, I get it. I just know that if I'm not buying this, I am likely just not buying anything. I just don't want anything that...sucks... I'd rather wait and save and buy a Lightning.