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I'm curious what your opinions are on the other end of the spectrum then, the upvote. ?

What I find most interesting is the weight numbers. GM is claiming an SS weight of 3685 pounds based off a base weight of 3908. Thing is, C/D had a test SS that weighed in at 3860 once. So, it is not outside the realm of possibility that a run-of-the-mill Zeta SS will weigh in at 3650 pounds. I predicted this elsewhere, some time ago. I believe you did.. and I doubted it. lol But, with the new packaging it won't ever be a bare bones SS. I personally don't think they will weigh this new one as low as 3650 but it is a possibiliy.

Are you talking about the Focus ST? Because the 2.0 and 1.0T do not make more than 160hp. The 2.0 makes 160hp/146tq and the 1.0T makes 123hp/123tq. The Mazda does have a larger(non-performance) engine option, which I think is really cool and unique to the segment. 2.0: 155hp/150tq and 2.5: 184hp/185tq. I will agree that 160hp is very weak for these size of cars but the 184tq should make up for it in daily driving. It will run like most ecoboosts and run out of steam up top but it'll feel plenty fine when driving and accelerating normally, IMO.

Cowboys won. Rams won. Cardinals won. Good sunday.

On my way to work this morning I managed to see 3 motorcycles,1 2001 Cobra convertible(down), and 1 Jeep with its top down/off. It was about 50-55 degrees.

Probably. The Spark just did. Yup. Every car grows. Except maybe the Miata. But can anybody name a car that has shrunk in the past 5 years? That's just "how it goes".

At 100+mph it involves sooooo much aero it isn't even funny. The 'Slade can have 1000hp but if it's creating lift and feels floaty over 100mph it means nothing as it isn't secure or safe at all. Same for the others. They will definitely need to do some aero playing to get it to go that fast. Things such as a "flag floor" and a good that allows air to flow out of it will go a long way. Which GM knows already because they made the ZL1 and Z/28 with similar hoods to what I'm talking about. Most cars create lift at extreme speeds but serious performance cars crest downforce securing the vehicle to the ground and giving the sense of security at extreme speeds. For example, if I were to do 100mph in my Escape it would give me the feeling of floating and it would feel super super sketchy. But do the same in s z/28 and you'd feel as if you were going 30mph with the sense of grip that it gives due to aero(and tires and other performance bits but you know what I'm saying). Also my pervious Mach 1 did the same thing. It was not a comfortable feeling to go fast, so I never did. Just saying it is more about just drag and power to go fast. Especially when meeting OEM requirements.

And they managed to make a performance version too..which he probably drools over.

I do. And by and large it is. The only thing you have to be aware of in my experience is when you enter and exit parking garages and whatnot. Go slow over speed bumps or your already bottomed-out truck will jolt you pretty good. Then manually jack it ASAP rather than wait for the truck to hit the preset speed. That's awesome, man. Yeah that makes sense. That's awesome that you have the ability to lower and raise it basically at will. How fast does it have to go before automatically raising it back up?

Ehh.. It's "okay". Not bad, not good. Just "Okay".

You're worded kinda funny. Hahaha i won't deny that..

In his defense, that is worded kind of funny.. or maybe I have poor reading skills as well. I got it..I just had to read it a couple of times. I feel like "If we change it so everyone can see who voted, would you want it to show all voting results ever cast?" sounds a little better. as opposed to: "If we change it so everyone can see who voted, would you care that it would show all voting results ever cast?" I may very well just have poor reading/writing abilities though, so there's that. lol

Honestly.. I think it looks pretty sharp, for what it is. It is ugly but in a unique sort of way where it doesn't necessarily look 100% function over form but it still is. They gave something SUPER BLAND a little style, albeit ugly stying, but it is still way above the last gen. I'd take the unique ugly over the bland bland bland.

'Bong, do you have the air suspension on your Ram? If so, is it as good as everybody makes it out to be?

OMG. There are soooooooooooo many ignorant people when it comes to ANYTHING tire related. It's actually surprising..and scary. LMAO I stand corrected, he has his tires set to 45 psi because he follows the "4 psi below rule" that a custom shop taught him!! Where do these people come from?! Cut up your license before you kill us all... Did I mention this is a base 4-cylinder car? I'm sure he'll be back to ask why he's getting like 4 mpg below EPA and why it takes 12 seconds for him to merge onto the highway at full throttle. Hahahaha what a JABRONI! Worse yet is that technician that told him that information. OMG. that car is going to be doggy as F. 22inch wheels on a 4cyl sedan. I know some are all "show" and don't care about the "go" but there's a line and 22 inch wheels crossed that. So I used to work in a shop.. and we've had cars, CARS, come in with 75-90spi in their tires. Absolutely no clue how the made it places with tires over inflated to that degree. And the stupid dummy lights that are in most vehicles(excluding GM as far as I know) that onl show that there is a "low tire" only go so far if the person driving the car still doesn't have a pressure guage. Then they just go around the car putting in air so the tire doesn't "look" low. So well over inlate most likely 3 tires and probably the 4th that was actually low as well.

OMG. There are soooooooooooo many ignorant people when it comes to ANYTHING tire related. It's actually surprising..and scary.

Is it my eyes or is the 5.3 making more torque at 2000rpm than the 6.2?

Huh? How do you know what is perfect for me? i'll bite. i think the OP's objective here was to have an exercise in creativity with a "lego bucket" of sorts from the major manufacturers... as much blind brand loyalty we choose to exhibit, if we are honest with ourselves, theres always going to be some shoulda coulda woulda thoughts on how it would be better. he may not mean he knows whats perfect for you specifically, just that if you had the option to change something you probably would. Spot. On, Brother! For instance, I guarantee Wings would prefer to have either the 8spd or 9spd from GM or Ram in his F150, at the very least. Nice Air Suspension call, I totally left that out and with how my truck would be utilized..I would definitely want that kind of ride. ..too bad that isn't available right now.. This is actually one thing that I wanted to keep in check because future vehicles is kind of endless "modifications". If we could ONLY utilize parts and things from vehicles currently for sale, that'd be great..lol Otherwise I'd probably go with a Raptor with the 6.2 and still most likely the Ram interior but I don't know what the '17 Raptor's interior will be like.

I'm also really curious about how aggressive they will get with the aero bits; Front facia, side skirts, hood.

First, to the admins, I wasn't sure were to put this as it is a comparison so it isn't just Ram or Toyota.. so move it as necessary. Also, I assume you do not want entire articles copied and pasted so I'll start it and then post a link to the rest of it. To the article. "Ah, the off-road pickup. The niche's profile has really been elevated over the past half-decade even if sub-brands such as Pro-4X, FX4, and Z71 have propped the field up longer. Ford's F-150 SVT Raptor went on sale in 2009, and suddenly it seemed everyone wanted to be an off-road enthusiast. The Raptor was a flared-fender sight to behold, more accessible and generally easier to justify to a spouse than a heavy-duty Ram Power Wagon. Naturally, every owner survey and OEM market research slideshow we've seen concedes a different reality. By and large, truck buyers don't care about off-roading. Or the off-roading occurs so infrequently it'd make you question the whole business of selling off-road trucks … but think of how cool you'd look behind the wheel! ..." "The Rebel and TRD Pro are very close in everyday livability, comfort, and fuel economy (14.4-14.5 combined Real MPG). Ram puts out great, consumer-focused features, and the superbly appointed interior still heads the class. Off-roading isn't everything, but the fact is we'll happily take more (tiebreaking) off-road capability in the Tundra TRD Pro any day of the week. Rad Tires Sure, all-terrain street tire treads are engineered to optimize grip in all conditions, but they also must be pleasing to the eye. Ram was so excited about the Toyo Open Country A/T II that it embossed the tread pattern into the seat inserts. The Tundra's optional BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO is a well-known quantity in the truck community. Owners have self-reported more than 100 million miles of use through tirerack.com surveys, nearly 8 million more than the second- and third-place tires combined (within the on-/off-road all-terrain category)." http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/2015_ram_1500_rebel_4x4_hemi_vs_toyota_tundra_trd_pro_comparison/

Could it be.. in some weird and crazy act of fate that the fact that it is their sole CUV for sale have anything to do with it? Dood. That's HEAVY I don't understand how some folks can be so down on a brand for no rational reason. The irony in your last sentence, is mind bottling. (Is "mind bottling" a thing?) I clearly said "rational." You clearly missed it. Quelle surprise. Anyways... It is a spiffy SUV Cadillac has here. "Chazz: Mind-bottling, isn't it? Jimmy: Did you just say mind-bottling?" Chazz: Yeah, mind-bottling. You know, when things are so crazy it gets your thoughts all trapped, like in a bottle?" -Blades of Glory

That's what I was hoping to avoid... because it isn't true.

For starters I would go with the Ram's middle cab configuration with the 4 doors. Not the massive 4 door SUV version but the middle sized one. I don't like that Ford doesn't have a "small" 4 door version and both GM and Ram do. Also I think the Ram offers the most luxurious interior(as I'm not really going to use the truck as a full on truck very often..at all.) So give me that interior, cab and I also want the Ram Box bed from Ram as well. I love that idea. Oh, I also like the hood that is on the "express" or even the Rebel with the two "nostrils". I think that looks really sharp as well. But the body in general will be F150. I love the new F150 headlights with the LEDs. I think the biggest question for me is wat driveline would I want. If I'm being realistic keeping costs down I would go with either the 2.7 from Ford or the 5.3 from GM. It would be hard to pass up a V8 if I am making the perfect truck(and attempting to be semi-realistic about it - otherwise I would just go with the 6.0 from GM). I would probably mate that to the Ram's 9spd.because of more gears..I guess..Actually I'd just keep the GM engine/trans together and rock the 8spd. Color.. I would say it would be super easy and I'd get the FX4 package with Guard Green(so I'd get the black grill and trim and wheels) but I do'nt see Guard on their website anymore so I would probably go with "Magnetic" with the FX4 style packaging with the black grill, trim, and wheels. (I think they are actually a dark grey not black but I dig the look either way.) Well, I think that's about my perfect half ton D3 truck. The only thing I would change would be to add the new 5.0 Cummins when that comes out..but it isn't out yet so I'll stick to the GM 5.3. Oh yeah, I'd also like the bed steps from the GM trucks in the bumper as well.

Hellllllllo ladies and gents(actually not sure if I have run into any ladies here..lol) Well I've done this one other time somewhere else and I thought it was a fun idea because everybody seems to like to tout their favorite truck as "the best" but that isn't true at all. They all have highs and lows but if put together you could make the perfect truck. What pieces off of what trucks would you put together to make your perfect half ton truck. Which engine, cab, transmission, bed, color, infotainment, interior configuration, etc. would you put together to make your perfect truck? Everybody's situation is different so some may want the GM 6.2 and others may want the Ford 2.7 or Ram 3.0. Some pay prefer a single cab others may want a Suburban with a bed. What would YOU make?

Kind of like the JGC's? That would not only be a great idea for numbers sake but for safety's sake as well. @'Bong I think that article you linked did say they will be lowering it. For all I know it could be a 1/4 inch or 2 inches though so just saying it will be lowered is very vague.