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based on what? k let me read the article... but i'm going to screw this article up... k... basically read the article... accually read it months ago... but let me pull out the calculator... okay they claim that 250,000 Toyota and Lexus have clocked more then 5 billion miles... so on average 20k miles... okay... now if saving petrolum based fuels is the goal... would you want to compare it to the best vehicle (fuel ecconomic leader) outside of the hybrid market... we obviously see that people who own very expensive cars also own a prius... so the quality of the car isnt of concern... so... if we choose a corolla to make the comparisons between, and lets go with the epa records of 30-38mpg... Fueleconomy.gov says combined is 33... it says accual average combined is really 29.5 (sounds like no one is driving on the highway) but lets go with the 33 mpg... the 2006 prius says 51-60 combined is 55... so... how does the consumer end up with 39.1? wow... but lets just go with that... go from 33mpg to 55mpg... so lets say, the difference is one gallon of gas gets you 22 miles farther... so lets see here... in order to save 100 million gallons, that would mean, these 250k vehicles would need to have... 250k vehicles that travel an average of 12k miles a year... that means that these vehicles accumulate 3 billion miles per year... so we can assume that the 250k units have been sold over the last 5 years... but even if they were... that would be... 3x5 years... so 15 billion miles for all 250k units... soo... with our 40% extra fuel ecconomy of the prius... with 15 billion miles racked up at 33 mpg... 454 million gallons... with 15 billion miles racked up at 55 mpg... 272 million gallons... so theoretically if all 250k were on the road for 5 years... they'd acheive a fuel savings of 182 million gallons, but i know most of those were sold last year... but if the fuel ecconomy is less then what the manufacture suggests... this is all bogus... and its all bogus anyway... if you want to be good to the enviornment get a bio diesel vehicle.. that way no pollutants and no petrolum is lost... what about the fuel savings of GM's new trucks... over the toyota trucks...

they already have it on the 06's... nothing new

hey that thing was faster then my parents 1998 194 hp v6 camry... soo... but with new epa rules haha!

imagine the governement contract the government is the only people that accually sign worse contracts then GM w/ the UAW and FIAT...

because its not a GM vehicle they dont have any room to discount it 2k... they dont care if that factory is working hard or not...

not good... i dont know why they would do that... if the tahoe and sub get the 3/4 ton rating... why not the avalanche...

have you ever driven an avalanche compared to a silverado crew, or a tahoe or suburban for that matter... if you do a drive comparason... you've got one of the best rides on the road... the avalanch offers great versitility where if you need to seat 6 you can... if you need an 8 foot bed... you got that too... and if you need a trunk? well you got that... if you need a beer cooler... you got that just add the ice and the beer cans... Avalanche sells about 7k a month... better then some vehicles... but realisitically it gives the suburban more substance... allows more vehicles to be built on that chassy... lowering the eventual cost...

I thought the enclave was a theta... what chassis is this based on?

thats it... i'm never buying a GM product again... thats all show and no go haha... ohh well

diesels... have their place... i remember in 1999 when a friend of mine bought her desiel vw bug... it was like 15k for a base gas, and like 19,9 for a deisel... the deisel got 50 mpg... made a nice 500 mile range on 10 gallons, or $15.00 at the time... diesel engines last longer, and they are also generally more powerful, meaning if you get 50 mpg out of a prius (which i doubt) and 50 mpg out of a diseil but... if i remember correctly that bug was rated at like 170 hp... the prius is rated at 72 hp, or 105 combined with the hybrid motor...

but doesnt the out rim of the reverse lights turn red or no?

sorry about the cobalt, i was trying to stay away from the SS trim line which has 2 round lamps... to correct you... the impala accually does have 2 round lamps on each side... sorry to be a pain but...

nono... they didnt try to patent it... they tried to copyright it... so that AMD couldn't call theres 486... all in all the court said you cant copyright a number... thus they went to pentium... accually being quite foolish cause what comes after pentium? sextium...

no offense taken, i'm one of those lowsy salesmen that everyone dispises... haha i'm about the most no pressure salesman there is... lol if my managers knew what i told customers i'd be fired for sure yea GM does probably burn 24 million per day... but if uaw went on strike... GM will lose about 1 billion per day... so with that aspect... 24 million doesnt look so bad... sooo when hearing the camaro concept cost gm cost gm 15 million... in GM time, thats a half days worth of work... i wouldnt let focus groups worry lutz... he's got his mind set... they would have made the solstice fwd and pink if they listened to focus groups...

with all you fokes in LA... you ought to give me some love at the dealership... come by and see me i'll show you my trans am... whatever shoot the $h!...

yea i think we are one of the only countrys that buys everything we see... we are very materialistic here... just goto toys r us or best buy... all things you will never need to live...

classic and astro are gone... ummm SSR Cobalt Sedan possibly equinox although there are 2 red lamps on top of eachother, but they are in a clear housing and the Aveo Sedan...

okay the cobalt sedan has the cat eye thing going on... and the Aveo as someone else mentioned... I think the malibu sedan has only 2 round red lights total... the SSR only has 2 round lights total... thats all of them... for Chevrolet...

lol i dont know what you're talking about... those S2000 dont give much of a run for its money even on a straight away i've been in a few races and its no competition... my 94 formula blew a brand new one away... haha one got really embarrased when he tried to race my friends 70 chevelle SS 454 but really those things only have 220 hp... and i dont think very much torque...

its called identity theft... it happens all the time... a good dealership like mine wont help you... i mean we've had people give us dead peoples socials... stollen socials... it all comes up on the beuro tho....

They have been doing this for the past few months...

yea i was asking him if it was covered up... but then he wouldnt have seen the chevy badge now would he have?

Chineese need to be watched... but they dont need to be feared... their products are inferior but cheap... as japans products were... dont worry toyota has their eye on putting an axe on the chinese... and they are also watching hyundia closely...

thats what i was thinking, but he said it was a chevy... and also why would something like that be driving around in Los Angeles area