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I thought the pentastar WAS only going to be the corporate logo, and the divisions would keep their individual logos...

That would be nice, but alot of the same reasons for not buying a Patriot come into play My statement wasn't clear. I would rather the Commander be done away with then the Grand Cherokee. The Grand Cherokee is supposed to be a more luxurious Jeep, with all the offroad capabilities of other REAL Jeeps. I think if they really need a 7 seater then make the Grand Cherokee that vehicle as well as the luxurious offroader. The Commander is redundant because all it offers that the Grand Cherokee doesn't is seating for more than 5 people. Plus, the Grand Cherokee is more attractive and has WAY better name recognition. I think the ideal Jeep lineup would be: Patriot (useful softroader), Wrangler (2-door, Unlimited, and JT), Liberty or Cherokee (compact offroader), Grand Cherokee (midsize offroader in 5 and 7 seat configurations). It would also help if succeeding generations were improved instead of a step backwards like the 2008 Liberty, and to an extent the current Grand Cherokee.

I just paid off my 03 Grand Cherokee, and was considering trading it for a Patriot with the off road 4 wheel drive package, but I just can't justify doing it for a lot of reasons, but I think Ocn has hit the nail on the head, It's too hard to imagine myself in even a Liberty or Patriot, let alone a Compass...I think the next Grand Cherokee needs to have seating for seven and be more luxurious, the liberty needs to step up and be a real replacement for the Cherokee, and then the Patriot could be a good softroader for the company because it is decently useful and looks like a Jeep should. The Wrangler is just gorgeous...a pickup version would be awesome, and the Commander although very nice, just doesn't fit in well...it is redundant

If you think that's bad, then I've got news for you...I was watching MTV Hits the other day, and there was a video with a 2007 Sebring on huge 24's...it was rediculously hideous...also, TI's video for Top Back has a ton of old GM's and new Chevies...the Impala, an old Camaro, an old Chevelle, the Camaro Concept, a Covette and an old Caddy

Absolutely beautiful...I really believe the Bonneville is one of the sexiest full size cars GM has built in years...It was sad to see it go...

The car is cool, but I would never use it...the Quadski on the other hand...that's an investment I would make without a second thought...Being able to go out to the lake with one vehicle that is an ATV and jetski would rock!

Ambidextrous...I technically use my right hand more, but I am fully capable of using my left hand for all the same things...there are some things I can only do left handed...like shooting pool...

Thanks!

accidently double posted this, if someone can delete one, that'd be cool.

I am giving a speech on the impact of the UAW on the American auto industry, and have been looking everywhere for yearly earnings reports for GM, Ford, and Chrysler, as well as information on the cost of pensions and healthcare for union workers. Any help or places to look for info would be awesome!

I saw the print version of the ad in Maxim...I definitely wouldn't turn down a Solstice GXP, or a 'date' with Miss Fox...

I would never trade my Jeep for one, but if ya win, SELL IT...I know I could always use the cash...being a broke college kid

It's really too bad the Aura isn't doing better, but does anyone know how many L-series they were selling before it was canned?

Lived in Laramie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laramie%2C_Wyoming) for just under a year, and am moving into my new house friday...spent the first 18 years of my life in Rawlins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rawlins%2C_Wyoming) I never really liked Rawlins that much, but looking it up on the internet makes it seem a lot worse then it really is...I like Laramie quite a bit though.

Some of it sounds good, but some of it sounds like speculation to me... What ever happened to Chi? or did I miss its cancellation?

I think he meant disciple...but at least they got credible fans, not jut random appliance humpers.

Exactly the one I was thinking of

Looks way better than the Daewoo version everyone was wooing over, AND would make a great addition to Buick with that interior!

I know I'm in the minority here, but besides the G8, every single rebadged Holden I see seems to get more and more derivative...they really need to just engineer original cars on the platform...that is the point. I would hope that an American Buick would have a hell of a lot more character than this exterior wise. I liked the Genesis quite a bit and despite its 'copycat' styling, at least it grabbed my attention more than this Daewoo.

Beat is my favorite, but Groove is pretty cool, and Trax is better than what's out there now.

I think the update is good, but I REALLY hope the interior is as nice as my 03, which I think still has WAY better materials then the 2005-2007

DEFINITELY! I oredered my copy the first day Amazon would allow it!

It's the bastard child of a Reno and a Mazda3 hatch...EWWW

Cadillac does pretty good with product placement like that, but they also put the Cien concept in The Island, and that hasn't been built yet, so I wouldn't use it as an indicator. Back on topic it would be a gorgeous car if that's what they built.