Drew Dowdell

It also shows what frequent minor refreshes can do for a car. Look at us all sitting in here nodding in approval at a car designed in 1997.

Some of us are just more aware of size and where we will and won't fit. :lol: :blink: :rolleyes: :P

Bling sells

That's a fairly nice interior for a W-body

Intrigue.

Plus, much like GM's 3800, Toyota throws the V6 from the Camry in just about EVERYTHING with a V6 engine! Nissan does the same thing with the VQ Ford does it with the Duratec. Sure the displacements might be a little different, but the overall engine is so similar as to be nearly idential.

NAV should be offered simply because it could be a high profit option for GM that acutally has value to the customer.

I'd feel like I was piloting a shuttle pod from Star Trek!!!

Reg, in case you haven't noticed over the past 20 years or so. Engines and transmissions are developed seperately from the cars they are finally put in. The 3.6vvt was "late" for the CTS and Rendevous, but exactly on time for the LaCross, STS, and Aura. Toyota almost ALWAYS releases engine updates mid-cycle. The current generation of Lexus ES started as an ES300.... today its an ES330. The Northstar was first introduced in the final years of the Allante. The CTS-v didn't come out till the CTS's second year. The Hybrid GM900s won't be out till about 6 months or so after the standard ones are. Honda's Accord Hybrid wasn't available till 3 years after the body style came out. BMW's Bangle M5 wasn't available at the Bangle 5-series launch. There is precedent for not releasing the new engine with the new platform.

I suppose it should be fairly easy to develop a car in 12 months when you already have: 1. The engine designed and tested. 2. The transmission designed and tested. 3. Buttons and switches in the parts bin. 4. Major frame components designed and tested. Toyota is designing cars like the housing industry is building houses. They have all the components in built and ready ahead of time. They bulldoze the site, pour the slab, then truck in all the bits, slap them together, and put a pretty skin on the outside.

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O4?

That looks like The Breakers in Palm Beach... I've stayed at that hotel.

I bet that Toyota Cavalier went over like a lead balloon.

I like to sometimes live dangerously. I told a very pregnent woman at work that the most dangerous place in the company is between her and the buffet.

Citibank commercial: Southern redneck trailer queen voice: "Well I went straight for the ritziest shopping channel on T.V. I bought some sturrup pants, some gold hoop earings, and some press on nails with the diamonds built right in..... Well... I know it's wrong... but I feel like the prettiest girl... in the whole... development. <happy cry>" That's what I think of everytime I see a modern Monte.

I work in a company that has no black employees in the offices. We have one girl who is from South Africa. We call her african-american all the time...... but she's cool with the joke.

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You should enter the wagon! That's the hottest and best quality chop of the 3. I'll vote for it.

If only all of GM's divisions had the "problems" that Cadillac has.

double ewe, tea, efff!?

Yes and god I hope not

seen it....

it's a good chop as far as graphical quality, but add a vertical bar on the grill and you've made yourself a Dodge Stratus.

Another C&G member and I were chatting on AIM about this the other night. He suggested that we need a LGBT forum on this site. I said "The whole damn site is a LGBT forum!" I'm just glad is isn't an issue with the straights on here and we can all be open and have fun with it.