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what powertrains are in this? I agree it might have to much over lap with the Equinox but I find this much more appealing then the long weelbase Theta--wife has the Vue and we like its dimesnions.

no I meant the 3.2L HF they have in Europe. Thats why I said "HF" ---denotes an engine family. Not that defunct POS 3.0L-3.2L thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_High_Featu...gine#Holden_3.2 hmm...I thought Europe too...

Interesting I don't mind engine growl (I was not talking about exhaust)--its the qaility. At full throttle...John Deer comes to mind. Yes therre is a TINY amount of silver accent but other then that its all balck and very stark looking. MY mistake I should have said MORE..... Glad you like yours, they look nice and its pretty close to being a very good car. Just those points I mentioned, hold the car back. I can say now, that after drinving the 3900 GM has got to consoilidate its V6 line up. Its way too big. Just keep the HF DOHC engines (2.8L, 3.2L, 3.6L) and make all the transmssion 6 speed auto. Thats a world class powerrtain with no excuses.

I was thinking of getting out my 2.4L Cobalt SS coupe and into a Malibu SS. Nothing wrong with the Cobalt--I just miss low end torque and an auto would be nice sometimes. Plus now that I have a kid--4drs would work better. I have always liked the SS Malibu--its sqaure, angular lines and SS exterior treatment look far more interesting the Accords, Camrys ect. I like this short wheelbase epsilon...much neater, tider dimesnions then it's long wheelbase brethren (G6, Aura) And I still do but after test driving the car it has too many faults for me. Namely the powertrain and a couple of very minor sqeaks/ratles that my Coblat does not have. The 3900 provided very strong launches, spinning the tires pretty good, it would hook and leap out of the gate. It is for sure a bit faster then my 2.4L SS. But the 4 speed auto is a letdown. Oh it shifts nice but needs more ratios. Crusing at a certain speed, where there was no lower gear to downshift to--you were left with ho-hum forward progress. I did like the manumatic shifter buton on the gear selector. And then there is the sound. Under part to medium throttle the engine sounded good. Under full throttle however, it was awful. Very agricultural, industrial..very bad. I was a bit surprised by this. I drove an Aura with the 3.5L and it sounded much better. Although it was quieter, the tone and note were far different. You can't attribute that to extra sound deadening. Interior accomadtions were very good. Although its a bit too black and stark for me. Aluminum or silver accents would go a long way. Visibilty was great--paticulary out of the front--you can nearly see the end of the hood. Did not push at all in the handling dept. It rode very very but not too harsh. It did seem to have a high speed wander. I think at sticker its too much money. If the 3.6L HF/6 speed auto were in this car..maybe I would get it. I have driven the Aura with this combo it it was a bit faster and sounded great. Oh well--I look forward tot he 08 Malibu.....I just hope its not tooo aerodynamic and boring.

Good to see. I hope its a solid 250hp. I hope the 2.4L gets ome updates too...direct injection would be nice and the accompanying hp boost

WOW! Thats great looking. With all these new exciting products I hope Saturn takes off. Anyword on a V8 option?

Very nice. But would it kill GM to put decent looking rims on 2500 and 3500 trucks?? Small and ugly

Sorry but eh Chevy is gross. For the first time ever the GMC wins here. Get rid of those montrous rectangular steel pieces on each end of the bumper. It does not fit at all

I share your sentitment. Sort of. I think the big block 8.1L would be very hard on fuel. I don't see many V10 Dodges or Fords. They just step up to the diesel (which would waster the 8.1L in any contest) or the 6.0 My friend got 25mpg (CDN---about 21US mpg) pulling a trailer with his Duramax.

I just drove a Saturn Arua with the 251 hp 3.6 and 6 speed auto. Pulled pretty hard off the line and kept going. Sounds great too.

No kidding! Great that the Camaro is coming back but I am a di-hard Firbird guy. I have owned both in the past. So a real nice 3rd gen for me I think. Of course I could change my mind.... :AH-HA_wink:

great post!

Funny how the author compare the torque of the 6.0 SS to the 454 SS pickup. THat thing is much slower, despite the greater torque. So why compare? I love Chevys SS lineup. Okay another RD car wold be good--but for what they are--they do very well. Reasonably priced cars, with geniune perfoprmance upgrades are worthy of the SS badge, IMO. Really high hp is nice to dream about but the price would be so high that the average joe could not get one. My 2.4L SS beats everything in its class. Mazda3, Ralliart, Focus ST ect...so I think the SS badge is fitting. It also can take a stock 350 SS 67-69--and remember they had multiple engined SS cars back then. So is a 350 SS not a real SS?? Cause the 396s were faster you know

unfortunatley daily exchage rates have nothing to do with MSRPs between the US and Canada. Example--a C6 Corvette is about 42K USD? 67K CDN! 25K difference Z06 is 89 K up here and 65K USD XLR V is much closer at 100K USD and 113K CDN. Most price differences are probably in the middle.

wow--how is that still running? They have a bad rep for reliability....good power for the day though

yeah but fwd manual is a bitch to launch!

my bad..I shold have listed a correct website for you, GM Canada has much better info sometimes. Curb weight (kg / lb.): LS: 2780 / 1261 LT: 1267 / 2793 LTZ: 1318 / 2905 SS: 1302 / 2871 LS: 1239 / 2730 LT: 1244 / 2742 SS: 2815 / 1277 SS Supercharged: 2925 / 1327 http://gmcanada.com/english/vehicles/chevr...ti.jsp#Exterior

make 'em real exspesive too eh? LTZ/LT are just gay. I like Chevys SS strategy. The price is very affordable, they can corner pretty good and do have more power. Not to an extreme degree---but if they did you can add alot to the price. Which I am not for. Chevys new SS lineup is more powerful and faster then Chevys older SS lineups. On average anyhow. Suddenly I am remeinded of a phrase....can't please all of the people all the time...

When I win the lotto---its stright to the Cadillac dealer for me. They have a great lineup--and are far better looking then Mercedes (yawn) and BMW (werid)

I perfer the current Silverado--the new one looks awfuly plain/boring. Bumper loosk stupid...part chrome/part painted? One or the other---not both!

I need Canadian pricing. Can't make sense of US prices

MSN auto is crap...wrong numbers. No Coblat sedan weighs 3200lbs. They have some right numbers though. And they say 15.92 90.80 for a 5 speed 2 dr 2.4L? Pft... I did 15.72 @ 921.68 MPH AT 3490 FT above sea-level. So its alot faster then a 15.9

2.4 VVT

damn my eyesight must be going! I could have swore you typed 3.6L...my bad. Good point though as there are no new RWD 60 degreee high value V6s.

hey lets just quit the name calling. ALot of people would associate it with the slow ones. ZR1 was a 1960s RPO for something, like the Z06 was. Also the "King of the Hill" Corvette ZR1 (90-95) was world class fast at the time. Doesn't sound stupid either--like Z06--its cool